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Old 01-28-2007, 12:26 AM   #19 (permalink)
glencorgi
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She's red and white and her adult coat is going to be in the range of what is showing on her head now - that is my prediction. Again, neither corgi breed is separated into color varieties in the conformation ring (with the exception of an event at the Cardigan National, which is of no concern here). There are many red & white PWC's in the show ring yesterday, today and tomorrow that are misregistered as sables. When filling out a show entry, color is not a blank that is filled out, so it isn't going to matter at all even by remote chance she ends up with sabling on her saddle for example. Not that I think that is going to be her coloring. So basically at least as far as an entry form goes, you could register her as polka dot and nobody at the show is going to check. Additionally, there are no disqualifying faults in the Pembroke standard.

Cathy Ochs Cline, whom you are quoting has expressed her understanding of sable in Cardigans. I've talked with other Cardigan breeders, who have been around even longer than Cathy, about sable and when I asked if sable was a color or a color pattern, their answer was it might be both. It is still a debated color.

IF there are no black headed tris behind her, then the odds of her being sable are very, very, very slim to most likely none. Here is the clincher: "It is theorized that a sable must carry the black gene in order to express its color. I have found this to be true in my breeding program. Since sable is only expressed on red hair, a brindle or black may carry the sable modifier without expressing it." That is not saying the same thing as you understood it:
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Now assuming this is the correct path of inharitance then the only way to have a sable pup is to 1 have a sable parent or having a black basied parent where the modifier is hiden.
One of the most gorgeous full shaded sable Cardigans I know did not produce a sable puppy in any of her breedings.

You are way over thinking this. While it is a fun exercise to predict colors or work through inherited colors, <IMO> it is clear she is red and white. I've had a sable puppy as a rescue, same age as your girl and there was no doubt that she was sable due to the patterning in her color. Your girl is exhibiting nothing like that.

Dominant modifiers and whether they are expressed or not is a bit different and more complicated than simple dominant and recessives we normally think of.

Debbie

Even IF you decide to wait a bit, you can't enter her in AKC shows until she's six months old anyway and late fees don't kick in until after a year, so there is time.
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