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Originally Posted by glencorgi
First, if you have looked at the typical threads on this forum and if you've been involved in the show world in other breeds; it should be pretty obvious this is not exactly the best resource for answers to the type of questions you are asking. ShowDogs-L and ShowPem-L would much better serve your needs.
Having said that and to answer your co-ownership questions in your other post; nothing unusual about that offer at all, especially when one is a novice in the breed.
On breeding a vWD carrier, well evidently this breeder is breeding them or the puppy available wouldn't be a carrier. On the one hand I wouldn't necessarily make the leap that the puppy you've been offered is intended for breeding. The breeder may be seeing it as an opportunity for you as a novice to get your feet wet with a nice puppy and prove yourself. The breeder may want his championship to go towards one of his parent's ROM's for example.
With an autosomal recessive mode of inheritance and carriers not being affected/no health risk; hypothetically and in theory including vWD carriers in a breeding program can be responsibly managed. However, from discussions on the breed show list, vWD does not seem to be as cut and dry/black and white as some other traits with the same mode of inheritance as far as carriers being affected. The more common position in the breed (US wise at least) is to avoid including carriers in a breeding program. Without knowing specifics, I can only speculate as to the breeder's intentions of this particular puppy as far as breeding goes and as I said, he/she may be offering him as a means for you to break into the breed, not necessarily to be included in a breeding program.
Debbie
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Hi Debbie,
I'm not sure what you're referring to with this not being the best resource. It's a forum for Corgis and allows for a little bit more anonymity than email lists do, I would prefer the breeder in question not know I'm asking about it. Your response provided quite a bit of insight.
As for the male, you're correct that he may just be being sold as a show dog, but what worries me is that she asked after telling me about him she mentioned her co-ownership and the clauses on stud use. I wonder if she was concerned about carrying on vWD, why she wouldn't just ask that he be finished and then neutered? Most people wouldn't have too much of a problem with that, since the dog could still be used in performance venues.
Since he was also offered to a friend of mine, who IS looking to start her foundation line in Corgis also (this the breeder was told), it becomes a little more worrisome still.
I'm the type of person that wouldn't even breed an OFA Fair rated dog to an Excellent (just because I've seen how THAT backfires in 4 different breeds), so I'm not sure I could, in good conscience, use a male I was aware was a carrier of vWD to further someone else's lines. Beyond that, my (admittedly) limited knowledge about the disease itself, has me a little scared. I know it's similar to our hemophilia in humans, which was also something that scared me.
I was just curious to see if it was common, because it does produce some doubt in my mind whether Corgis are the breed for me, if it is.