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Old 07-09-2007, 07:42 PM   #7 (permalink)
Peggy
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Originally Posted by breepeace View Post
I'm not sure what you're referring to with this not being the best resource. It's a forum for Corgis and allows for a little bit more anonymity than email lists do, I would prefer the breeder in question not know I'm asking about it. Your response provided quite a bit of insight.
I think her concern is that there aren't very many show people on this forum. And what you're asking about is a show related item. So not as many here to give advice on that as would be on showdogs or showpem.

But I understand your not wanting the breeder to know about your questions.

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As for the male, you're correct that he may just be being sold as a show dog, but what worries me is that she asked after telling me about him she mentioned her co-ownership and the clauses on stud use. I wonder if she was concerned about carrying on vWD, why she wouldn't just ask that he be finished and then neutered? Most people wouldn't have too much of a problem with that, since the dog could still be used in performance venues.
Some breeders will breed carriers if the dog is not affected in any way. Some just carry the gene and don't have any symptoms or effects from it. And if bred to a non carrier the puppies would not be affected although some could still be carriers.

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I'm the type of person that wouldn't even breed an OFA Fair rated dog to an Excellent (just because I've seen how THAT backfires in 4 different breeds), so I'm not sure I could, in good conscience, use a male I was aware was a carrier of vWD to further someone else's lines. Beyond that, my (admittedly) limited knowledge about the disease itself, has me a little scared. I know it's similar to our hemophilia in humans, which was also something that scared me.
Well, it's not really common in Pems and most that are carriers don't show signs at all. And from what I've heard there are very few affected pems. It's thought that they die in utero and never survive. Although that is not known.

And there are a lot of OFA fair pems. And yes, they are bred. Fair is a common rating in pems and they are not dysplastic so no one sees a problem with breeding them.

There are plenty of breeders who will sell without contracts or with ones that are more fair to you.

Peggy
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