[glencorgi]

Originally Posted by TheOtherStormy

My only concerns with breeding him is that all the puppies will have a home and that he has no relation to the female.

To which Chris replied: "I would have more concerns than that, <snipped>"

And Chris hit the bulls eye with that.

As far as finding homes for all the puppies, you have no say or part in that. You are the stud dog owner, the owner of the female controls all the placings. As a stud dog owner, you get you stud fee whether it be $ or a puppy and you are out. That's just the role of the stud dog owner. So if all the "just in time for Christmas or Easter or whatever holiday, so every child can have a corgi puppy, puppies don't sell and the owner of the dam gets tired of cleaning up after them, he/she can dump them on rescue or in a shelter along the side of a road (it has happened); you aren't going to know. You aren't going to know about the puppy by your dog that the breeder sold to a young pregnant couple because they wanted a dog to grow up with their new baby decides raising a baby and a puppy is too much work and the puppy ends up at the pound. Nor will you know a couple years down the road when the young couple the breeder sold a puppy decide to have a child and the puppy sired by your dog doesn't like the baby and give it up. (I'm not making this stuff up, couldn't make it up -- seen it, heard it all in rescue. I'm betting you'd also be surprised at the number of corgis that do come up needing rescue assistance in South Dakota even with its limited population density.)

Now you can write up a stud contract and include clauses such as you have to approve all homes, which no one is going to sign. Or the responsible thing to do, a second right of refusal clause which means if a puppy sired by your dog for anytime in lifetime needs to find a new home and the breeder won't take it, then it can come to you; but that's all the say you are going to have.

As for the second part of your statement about wanting a total outcross breeding - no relation between you boy and that only shows a lack of knowledge and understanding about dog breeding.

I've seen what happens to purebreds when they start to get a little too pure.

Can you explain a little further what you mean by this as it is bollucks to me. You say you want a chip off the ol' block puppy just like your current puppy. Need to keep in mind, he's still a puppy too and that not all of his personality/temperament has come out yet; at 18 months, you might see some dramatic changes and at 2 years of age he may not be the same as the puppy he is now. Breeding him to any female corgi that happens to take you up on your offer of stud isn't going to make that happen. Temperament is very much inherited, so her temperament as well as all the corgis behind her and all those behind your boy are going to come into play. You have no idea if one of them had to be put down due to rage syndrome or if shyness is strong or how many of them had harder edge temperaments.

Now I've got what you are dreaming of in my house. I have a boy that is so much like his sire in temperament and personality, it is eerie. How that happened is that Munchee's grandmother on his dad's side is a littermate to his great grandmother on his dam's side. With the exception of the rescue Cardigan, all the half dozen or so Cardigans in my house go back to one Cardigan female. By carefully line breeding, out crossing and line breeding again, I have predictability - I know what faults and issues to watch out for and can plan breedings accordingly. What one has when doing nothing but out crossing is not much better than two random Heinz 57's making puppies.

I'd rather produce happy puppies for families than cranky ones.
His mom was and his dad "got it" [i]just[i] before we got him.

"Got what?" On the above statement I am going to proceed with the presumption that you are wanting to make sound puppies - sound meaning both in health and in temperament. Now how can you conscientiously and responsibly offer you puppy at stud when you don't know the major health concerns in the breed or how to test for them?

What's OFA? Sorry, this guy is new. Before him I just brought home little guys from work, most of them mutts.

Pop quiz time: What are the two other health screenings commonly done by responsible PWC breeders? You now have heard of hip dysplasia and OFA, there are two more.

As far as letting your guy have some "fun" by making puppies, need to get your head out of the testosterone potty humour, dogs don't have sex for pleasure, nor is it fun - they are acting on primal instincts and IF they never breed it doesn't matter to them. You also risk him contracting brucellosis if you don't have him tested and whatever female he is going to be bred to tested. Injuries can be sustained during a tie.

In spite of what Michael might wish or think, no one who has the caliber and quality of corgi that those looking for stud dogs in NZ have in mind are going to be trying to stud their dog out on Go Corgi. It just simply isn't done.

Debbie