[Peggy]

Originally Posted by Michael Romanos

No categories were left out, meaning that the majority of dogs/Corgis fit into 1-6 or components of them, though they are not all embracing.

They may be all the catagories the author of this "study" came up with but IMO, there are other catagories that are not included.

Peggy - for 'owners' also read 'handlers.' I think you are mistaken if yiou don't believe that a lot of owners/handlers are selfish.

I did not say that I did not think that some, I'm not ready to say a lot, of owners are selfish. I said "I do not see the military or police that use dogs as being selfish owners." Meaning I do not see these handlers/owners as being selfish for having/using dogs in these capacities.

Are you saying it's selfish to use a dog as a police dog or in the military? Or as a seeing eye dog? And if so why?

Most dogs in service for farming, drugs, customs, police work, guarding industrial and commercial properties (and also a factor with private home guard dogs) do not enjoy normal social activities within a family and have the run of a home.

True, but they don't know any other life and for them it is normal. And many of them enjoy that life. I don't see it as wrong or selfish. Not every dog needs to be a dog in a home. They are after all DOGS not people.

And shoot, a person in the military doesn't exactly have a "normal" life much of the time either. Especially those that live in the barracks. It doesn't make it wrong, it's just not ideal.

And shoot how many of us have an "ideal" life?

A lot of breeding dogs also fit into this type of treatment as do some Corgis I know who are members of the WWCWC either from a past life (as show and breeding dogs) or as per current (re the Santa Claus breeder).

Here it depends on the breeder. And yes there are degrees. Some are better than others. Some of them do have a home life and yes, some are kennel raised. Again, a different lifestyle. I cannot and will not condem all breeders who use kennels. Not too long ago that was common of show breeders, to have large kennels and many, many dogs. Most of the large show kennels are now gone, but a few are left. The dogs get good care and are not abused. Not what you want for a lifestyle for your dog, but it is their choice.

I really wish you'd come up with some other term for this breeder, as he is in no way a "Santa Claus", no matter what he looks like. He's a casual breeder.

I would not interpret "significant other" as meaning other human but rather other anything that can bleed.

For me "significant other" means another person. A dog is not equal to a human and is not a significant other. A dog is a pet.

The main thrust of the writer was to categorise owners/handlers and their dogs/Corgis for purposes of training or retraining to try and correct errors of upbringing. All categories have their good points but some can have much more of a downside than do others. The article appeared in a NZ magazine.

And who is this writer, why can we not know who it is and see if there are other articles or studies by him/her?

Is the magazine on line?

Peggy