Corgi biting on legs - Page 2

HoW.Corgi · 01-08-2007, 05:02 PM

If your asking about my corgi's age he's about 4 months already..ok so i tried the verbal thing right? He just doesn't listen he just keeps biting and when it does work he just looks at me with his teeth still in my pants and then he returns to biting. I yelp a ow again and he didnt listen he just comes back biting. I tried the no chew spray also and he seems to love that

. Well I dont know what to do with him.... can it also be separation anxiety?

tandemgal · 01-08-2007, 05:29 PM

It does seem like your pup's biting is beyond regular puppy play. IMO you should listen to Bayoucorgi for help while your boy is still young enough to manage. I'm not saying he can't be a good pet just that he will need the stronger corrective measures she has outlined.

Good luck and keep us posted

pikachu · 01-08-2007, 09:31 PM

Hi HoW.Corgi,

I understand how you feel when yelping and pinning on floors don't work out. I had similar experience or rather exactly the same experience before. The moment we pinned our corgi down, he will tame down for a while, but soon after, he will bite again. Btw, my corgi is also 4 mths old now, he was biting a lot when he gets too excited during play when he was slightly more than 3 mths old. I think we are experiencing the same thing, the only difference is that my puppy don't really bite, but nip.

For those experts out there, correct me if I am wrong.

Perhaps, there is this missing link here. Our 4 mth old puppy has since stop nipping on us, or very very much less ever since we adopt the following approach :

1) Establish our pack leader role during his meal time, my hubby feed him in the morning & I feed him in the evening, we eat our meal 1st, & let him see it, while eating, we growl at him(pu on a show) just as a pack leader will do in the wild, after we finished our meal, then we will get our puppy to sit & stay, pu his food in front of him, ask him to stay until we give him permission to eat his food. We do this meal after meal, day after day.

2) Always put on a collar n leash when he is not in his crate. Walk him around the house, stop him from biting onto furnitures and floor mats.

3) Smack his butt the moment he sink his teeth onto anything, be it your skin, your shirt or anything in your house, & give him a stern look & a firm "NO" while smacking his butt.

4) Last but not least, you have to play with him, reward him & praise him if he does not bite during play time.

Hope these help.

Good Luck & do update us, ya?

Michael Romanos · 01-08-2007, 09:55 PM

A lot of us follow the advice of respected canine behaviorists and don't smack dogs or promote the smacking of dogs.

corgimom · 01-08-2007, 10:32 PM

How.Corgi,

I think you should read BayouCorgi's good advice that she gave you a bit more closely.

And also, smacking a dog on the butt is not something I would do.

pikachu · 01-08-2007, 10:33 PM

Alright, when I say smack, it refers to using your palm to give a slight slap on the butt that does not inflict pain, but rather an action to tell him that his butt will feel beaten when he done something wrong.

glencorgi · 01-08-2007, 10:53 PM

HoW Corgi - you have been given excellent advice by Bayou Corgi - follow it. She has experience and background "IN DOGS" and is very dog savvy. I strongly suggest you take her advice over a first time owner. All I see is alpha wannabe actions, physical inimidation. Growling at a puppy while eating in front of it indeed!

Debbie

pikachu · 01-08-2007, 11:01 PM

Yeah, that'z what we do, we growl at our puppy when we are eating. And we can see that he kind of tame down.

glencorgi · 01-09-2007, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by pikachu

Yeah, that'z what we do, we growl at our puppy when we are eating. And we can see that he kind of tame down.

As I said, this is the behavior one sees in a canine alpha wannabe, not a true alpha. Humans teaching resource guarding - excellent move. NOT!

Truth is it sounds like you are no longer treating him like one of your chinchillas and have begun to spend more time with him and being more interactive. That and growing up, maturing is a more plausible explanation for some of the calming you are seeing. Additionally, with the physical corrections, you've likely instilled some fear, not respect in him, so he is afraid of you and isn't acting out as much.

Debbie

Chip's Mom · 01-09-2007, 04:22 AM

You can also search this site and read the comments on spanking a corgi - it is not taken kindly on this site. We do not believe in spanking a pup at all. A pup is supposed to love us above all else and how can he do that if you are smacking him - Take all the good advice here and do not hit your dogs. Hands are supposed to represent all things good - a corgi shouldn't fear people.

Dillydoodle · 01-09-2007, 06:28 AM

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Bayoucorgi · 01-09-2007, 01:49 PM

Bonnie, I think you should continue to add your advice. That's why this is a forum. We all have different dogs and different methods will work with some and not others. There is no one right way.

As for the "bitey" puppy in the litter. I always used the Volhard Puppy Aptitude Test (you can Google for it) for my litters. I kept in touch with my puppy owners for as long as I could (in several cases for the dogs' entire lives). I always matched my puppies to the potential homes. It is amazing how accurate it can be. The dominant ones never went to first-time owners and the ones with the high prey-instinct "chase" scores didn't go to Guide Dogs!

The way puppies act with siblings wasn't reliable as an indicator of temperament in my experience. We had one little girl who was wild white heck. She wasn't the biggest puppy but she could topple any of the litter. She would pounce like a tiger and bite them and make them all cry. The rest of the puppies were terrified of her and would scatter when she came running at them. And of course we would laugh! She temperament tested as a very middle-of-the-road, biddable dog and my friend kept her. Madeline (mad-dog) is now 10 years old, is a fabulous agility dog who is the sweet, smart, and funny with NO aggression to anything ever. And we had a puppy in a different litter who was so docile in the litter environment who literally attacked the umbrella in the "surprise" test and we decided she needed to go to the family experienced with German Shepherds instead of the 8-year-old boy's home. She wasn't mean but she was definitely one who would have been a struggle for first-time owner.

I LOVE the blaze-faced Corgis like Chip and Liam. I am so envious that you are getting Dale! I love my blaze-faced wolverine so much. He was nippy, bitey boy when I got him but a good hard muzzle shake by this alpha and he was fixed. In one early nail clipping incident he reflexively put his mouth on me for just the briefest moment before he realized what he was doing. He was so funny, he started licking my hand as if to say, "oh sorry, so sorry, didn't mean to", laid back on his back and was totally submissive before I could even try to correct him. Now he'll lay on my lap and make funny snarly faces while I cut but he will never, never, ever put his mouth on me.

I agree with the group opinion. I don't spank, hit, or smack my dogs (just my kids - just kidding!).

HoW.Corgi · 01-09-2007, 04:22 PM

thank you for your suggestions,

but whats like the regular cost of obedience schools?

glencorgi · 01-09-2007, 04:35 PM

You'll need to call around to like PetsMart, Petco, ask your vet for recommendations, call the local all-breed club and dog training club. Rates can vary from area to area and facility to facility.

Debbie

Dillydoodle · 01-09-2007, 04:39 PM

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01-08-2007, 05:29 PM	#17 (permalink)
tandemgal Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,336	It does seem like your pup's biting is beyond regular puppy play. IMO you should listen to Bayoucorgi for help while your boy is still young enough to manage. I'm not saying he can't be a good pet just that he will need the stronger corrective measures she has outlined. Good luck and keep us posted __________________

01-08-2007, 10:53 PM	#22 (permalink)
glencorgi Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Piedmont Triad, NC Posts: 2,417 Images: 3	HoW Corgi - you have been given excellent advice by Bayou Corgi - follow it. She has experience and background "IN DOGS" and is very dog savvy. I strongly suggest you take her advice over a first time owner. All I see is alpha wannabe actions, physical inimidation. Growling at a puppy while eating in front of it indeed! Debbie Last edited by glencorgi; 01-08-2007 at 10:56 PM.

01-09-2007, 04:22 AM	#25 (permalink)
Chip's Mom Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Northeast TN Posts: 2,243 Images: 3	You can also search this site and read the comments on spanking a corgi - it is not taken kindly on this site. We do not believe in spanking a pup at all. A pup is supposed to love us above all else and how can he do that if you are smacking him - Take all the good advice here and do not hit your dogs. Hands are supposed to represent all things good - a corgi shouldn't fear people. __________________ Bonnie A Good Home, Loving Family and Three Loyal Corgis at my feet - I am truly Blessed.

01-09-2007, 06:28 AM	#26 (permalink)
Dillydoodle Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,381	Deleted my post Last edited by Dillydoodle; 04-16-2007 at 11:00 AM.

01-09-2007, 04:39 PM	#30 (permalink)
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01-08-2007, 05:02 PM	#16 (permalink)
HoW.Corgi Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 12	If your asking about my corgi's age he's about 4 months already..ok so i tried the verbal thing right? He just doesn't listen he just keeps biting and when it does work he just looks at me with his teeth still in my pants and then he returns to biting. I yelp a ow again and he didnt listen he just comes back biting. I tried the no chew spray also and he seems to love that . Well I dont know what to do with him.... can it also be separation anxiety?

01-08-2007, 09:31 PM	#18 (permalink)
pikachu Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 20	Hi HoW.Corgi, I understand how you feel when yelping and pinning on floors don't work out. I had similar experience or rather exactly the same experience before. The moment we pinned our corgi down, he will tame down for a while, but soon after, he will bite again. Btw, my corgi is also 4 mths old now, he was biting a lot when he gets too excited during play when he was slightly more than 3 mths old. I think we are experiencing the same thing, the only difference is that my puppy don't really bite, but nip. For those experts out there, correct me if I am wrong. Perhaps, there is this missing link here. Our 4 mth old puppy has since stop nipping on us, or very very much less ever since we adopt the following approach : 1) Establish our pack leader role during his meal time, my hubby feed him in the morning & I feed him in the evening, we eat our meal 1st, & let him see it, while eating, we growl at him(pu on a show) just as a pack leader will do in the wild, after we finished our meal, then we will get our puppy to sit & stay, pu his food in front of him, ask him to stay until we give him permission to eat his food. We do this meal after meal, day after day. 2) Always put on a collar n leash when he is not in his crate. Walk him around the house, stop him from biting onto furnitures and floor mats. 3) Smack his butt the moment he sink his teeth onto anything, be it your skin, your shirt or anything in your house, & give him a stern look & a firm "NO" while smacking his butt. 4) Last but not least, you have to play with him, reward him & praise him if he does not bite during play time. Hope these help. Good Luck & do update us, ya?

01-08-2007, 09:55 PM	#19 (permalink)
Michael Romanos Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Silverstream (near Wellington, the capital of NZ) Posts: 4,896 Images: 2	A lot of us follow the advice of respected canine behaviorists and don't smack dogs or promote the smacking of dogs.

01-08-2007, 10:32 PM	#20 (permalink)
corgimom Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 3,199	How.Corgi, I think you should read BayouCorgi's good advice that she gave you a bit more closely. And also, smacking a dog on the butt is not something I would do.

01-08-2007, 10:33 PM	#21 (permalink)
pikachu Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 20	Alright, when I say smack, it refers to using your palm to give a slight slap on the butt that does not inflict pain, but rather an action to tell him that his butt will feel beaten when he done something wrong.

01-08-2007, 11:01 PM	#23 (permalink)
pikachu Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 20	Yeah, that'z what we do, we growl at our puppy when we are eating. And we can see that he kind of tame down.

01-09-2007, 01:49 PM	#27 (permalink)
Bayoucorgi Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Houston Posts: 207 Images: 8	Bonnie, I think you should continue to add your advice. That's why this is a forum. We all have different dogs and different methods will work with some and not others. There is no one right way. As for the "bitey" puppy in the litter. I always used the Volhard Puppy Aptitude Test (you can Google for it) for my litters. I kept in touch with my puppy owners for as long as I could (in several cases for the dogs' entire lives). I always matched my puppies to the potential homes. It is amazing how accurate it can be. The dominant ones never went to first-time owners and the ones with the high prey-instinct "chase" scores didn't go to Guide Dogs! The way puppies act with siblings wasn't reliable as an indicator of temperament in my experience. We had one little girl who was wild white heck. She wasn't the biggest puppy but she could topple any of the litter. She would pounce like a tiger and bite them and make them all cry. The rest of the puppies were terrified of her and would scatter when she came running at them. And of course we would laugh! She temperament tested as a very middle-of-the-road, biddable dog and my friend kept her. Madeline (mad-dog) is now 10 years old, is a fabulous agility dog who is the sweet, smart, and funny with NO aggression to anything ever. And we had a puppy in a different litter who was so docile in the litter environment who literally attacked the umbrella in the "surprise" test and we decided she needed to go to the family experienced with German Shepherds instead of the 8-year-old boy's home. She wasn't mean but she was definitely one who would have been a struggle for first-time owner. I LOVE the blaze-faced Corgis like Chip and Liam. I am so envious that you are getting Dale! I love my blaze-faced wolverine so much. He was nippy, bitey boy when I got him but a good hard muzzle shake by this alpha and he was fixed. In one early nail clipping incident he reflexively put his mouth on me for just the briefest moment before he realized what he was doing. He was so funny, he started licking my hand as if to say, "oh sorry, so sorry, didn't mean to", laid back on his back and was totally submissive before I could even try to correct him. Now he'll lay on my lap and make funny snarly faces while I cut but he will never, never, ever put his mouth on me. I agree with the group opinion. I don't spank, hit, or smack my dogs (just my kids - just kidding!).

01-09-2007, 04:22 PM	#28 (permalink)
HoW.Corgi Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 12	thank you for your suggestions, but whats like the regular cost of obedience schools?

01-09-2007, 04:35 PM	#29 (permalink)
glencorgi Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Piedmont Triad, NC Posts: 2,417 Images: 3	You'll need to call around to like PetsMart, Petco, ask your vet for recommendations, call the local all-breed club and dog training club. Rates can vary from area to area and facility to facility. Debbie

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