Is this normal puppy/dog behavior?

[bubblegumbarbe79]

Originally Posted by Chip's Mom

If you lightly spank your pup, you are teaching him that your hands are not always good and sometimes they may hurt him. You never want your animal to fear you. Does your pup ever shy away from you or cower down? I am surprised a breeder would tell you that it is sometimes good to spank your pup.

no she doesnt cower down or shy away. she runs at you full force and practually rams into you because she cant stop on the tiled floor

She didnt say always spank her, she said sometimes you may have to in some situtations.

CorgiMom - I bought bitter apple spray and she doesnt care much for it but the scent doesnt stay on her leash very long. I spray it on the leash as I get ready to take her out but by the time we get out and back in, its already wore off. Ive tried vinegar (i seen a little snippet from a book saying put it on your leash) but it doesnt faise her and plus I cant stand that smell (i forgot it was so strong, almost gave me a headache lol). Ive been teaching her leave it and give it (i like it better than drop it). Actually she doesnt growl all the time when i take the leash from her. She has been listening to me when I tell her no when she has the leash in her mouth. Sometimes she will and sometimes she wont, shes a stinker. Im not asking her to be a genuis or anything. Shes actually a pretty good little pup if you knock out the growling, which she doesnt do as much as she used too.

[corgimom]

With the bitter apple spray, try using it again. It won't really be the Scent that deters her but the taste. Make sure you SPRAY IT WELL so that the leash is actually a bit saturated, and not just a quick light spray. Spray the last 12 to 16" of her leash that hooks onto her collar.

When I really gave the end of the leash a good spraying, the bad taste would last for 3 days - I usually only had to spray the leash 2 or 3 times a week.

See what happens when you do this - I think it will work better for you

[bubblegumbarbe79]

Originally Posted by corgimom

With the bitter apple spray, try using it again. It won't really be the Scent that deters her but the taste. Make sure you SPRAY IT WELL so that it is actually a bit saturated, and not just a quick light spray. Spray the last 12 to 16" of her leash that hooks onto her collar.

When I really gave the end of the leash a good spraying, the bad taste would last for 3 days - I usually only had to spray the leash 2 or 3 times a week.

See what happens when you do this - I think it will work better for you

Thanks for the tip linda! When I first got it, I sprayed it on paper to test the smell out and it smells alot like alcohol, which it doesnt have any it. Im glad im not an animal with a chewing problem

[corgimom]

Just wondering if the Bitter Apple Spray helped and if you had a chance to try using it again?

I finally got a chance to check out Lexy on dogster. I guess I did not realize that you had a previous Corgi. Sounds like she was not too fond of your cat, Autumn. How long ago was it that you had your other Corgi?

Have you decided as to where you are going to take Lexy for classes - you had wondered before where would be a good place to take her. You mention your parents, so I am assuming you live at home - will it be difficult for you to get her to classes in the evening; I guess, I am assuming you are still in school.

[bubblegumbarbe79]

Originally Posted by corgimom

Just wondering if the Bitter Apple Spray helped and if you had a chance to try using it again?

I finally got a chance to check out Lexy on dogster. I guess I did not realize that you had a previous Corgi. Sounds like she was not too fond of your cat, Autumn. How long ago was it that you had your other Corgi?

Have you decided as to where you are going to take Lexy for classes - you had wondered before where would be a good place to take her. You mention your parents, so I am assuming you live at home - will it be difficult for you to get her to classes in the evening; I guess, I am assuming you are still in school.

Im still using the apple spray. I sprayed a mother load on the leash the other day but it still wears off. I dont know what the problem is. Is there different types of bitter apple sprays?

Our other corgi, gosh she just wouldnt leave our cat a lone for 1 second. Autumn (the cat), she can tolerate other animals being around her but she doesnt like them to bother her 24/7. With my other one, she was incredibly ruff with her, lungging at her, jumping on her back, bitting her tail, ramming her into the doors/walls and misc objects. Autumn would get this everyday and we where afraid that she would get hurt because she couldnt defend herself (although she tried). I really dont know if she was fond of Autumn or not, but I know she wouldnt let her do anything without being ruff with her and doing the everyday things she did to her. So we had to get rid of her because we didnt want her to injure Autumn. I still think about her from time to time today. Its been many many many months ago since we had her. But Lexy is mild mannered to Autumb. She only chases her when she runs, which is normal for them to run after something that scurrys off. But other than that she doesnt really bother her.

Yes, I am still at home but not in school (had to drop out since i didnt have time for it, mom was in the hospital sick). I can probably take her anytime of the day as long as its alright with my dad. I was aiming for Petsmart, but if they dont have any avalible classes, then I will go with PetCo, which im hoping that they have avalible classes (im crossing my fingers).

[corgimom]

I am not sure what the problem is, but If you spray a leash/and not a metal one generously, the Bitter Apple taste will not wear off for at least a good 2 days.

[bubblegumbarbe79]

Originally Posted by corgimom

I am not sure what the problem is, but If you spray a leash/and not a metal one generously, the Bitter Apple taste will not wear off for at least a good 2 days.

The leash is a nylon one. I have been wanting a metal one since my mom an I think that maybe she wouldnt chew on a metal one since metal doesnt seem fun to chew to us. But we havent found one. Looked at stores local here and online, no luck. I dont know how much bitter apple spray I sprayed on her leash yesterday. I kept going up and down about 12-16'' like you said and it stayed there for a bit but now it seems to have worn off. Maybe I got a dud bottle or something. Are all the bitter apple spray the same? I got the one with the picture of a dog bitting its furr off on the bottle. All I know is that stuff stinks lol!!!

[corgimom]

Well,

yes, after you spray it thoroughly, it will eventually dry, but the taste will remain; it wouldn't work well on a metal one.

[bubblegumbarbe79]

Originally Posted by corgimom

Well,

yes, after you spray it thoroughly, it will eventually dry, but the taste will remain; it wouldn't work well on a metal one.

Apparently the taste isnt there anymore because she was trying to bite on it this mornin' when I sprayed a lot on it yesterday. I spray it on my moms artificial flowers and she leaves them alone but not the leash. Maybe she has a big thing for the leash...hmmm lol

[corgimom]

not sure why that would be, because the taste does stay on the leash; it would actually absorb the Bitter apple, better than the artificial flowers would. Also, there is Isopropanol 20% in the Bitter apple, so it is a secondary component of rubbing alcohol, also, water, bitter principles and extractives(per bottle)

By the way, that is a nice picture of you from Lexy's/Autumn's dogster page with Autumn. I happen to love cats also.

[darci]

What other training methods are you using besides the bitter apple spray ?

Forgive me I havent read this entire thread.

You may try reading some puppy training books I thought I had saw some some where listed on this forum you may do a search.

[Chip's Mom]

Did you find a home for your other puppy? How old was he and was he a corgi too? You will have to forgive me also because I didn't read all of these posts. Sorry you had to drop out of school. What are you doing with your time now?

[bubblegumbarbe79]

Originally Posted by darci

What other training methods are you using besides the bitter apple spray ?

Forgive me I havent read this entire thread.

You may try reading some puppy training books I thought I had saw some some where listed on this forum you may do a search.

With the chewing issue, I have been giving her a toy when i catch her nibbling on something or I take it from her and tell her no chewing and softly spank her to let her know its a NO NO. But other than her chewing issues, which is normal for a little puppy since they are teething and her growling issues (which she doesnt have hardly anymore) shes fine.

Chips Mom - Yes, We found her a home and the family had a little girl an a jack russell terrier. Yes, she was a pwc and she was 9months. We just couldnt have her being so ruff with our cat .

Right now, I am not doing anything since I help my mom around the house. There isnt alot of interesting jobs around here an If I did get one, Id have to be sitting down or constantly moving since my back hurts when I stand still in one spot without moving very long or if I have nothing to brace it.

CorgiMom That picture of Autumn an I is 3 yrs old.. its ancient lol. I love cats too, all of them are cute to me except for the spinx ones. I have had cats all of my life but they dont have the brains that a dog does! So thats why I smelt alcohol in it. Thats the first thing I smelt. The bitter apple spray also doesnt absorb into her wooden wicker toy basket either. Appearently I must be putting it on wrong or something .

[CorgiMum]

I've been trying to catch up readiing all of this post, and although it seems to have evolved into many topics do to its length, there is a statement that keeps coming to light.

Any pup that has a problem involving inappropriate chewing should be supervised very closely, and or confined in a suitable way. Maybe an X-pen or play yard. Not hit.

I do not advocate hitting a dog. Weather it be called spanking or any other name. The intent is the same. This to me is not a suitable way to bond with an animal and have him learn anything, especially how to trust you. It is exactly what it sounds like, an expresion of frustration by the human. It also shows the aminal that you have lost your power to reason.

I would hope that these statements of in any way shape or form of hitting a dog would be contested by the powers that be of Go Corgi, esuring the general public reading here that this board does not believe in hitting corgis or any other dog.

[bubblegumbarbe79]

Originally Posted by CorgiMum

I've been trying to catch up readiing all of this post, and although it seems to have evolved into many topics do to its length, there is a statement that keeps coming to light.

Any pup that has a problem involving inappropriate chewing should be supervised very closely, and or confined in a suitable way. Maybe an X-pen or play yard. Not hit.

I do not advocate hitting a dog. Weather it be called spanking or any other name. The intent is the same. This to me is not a suitable way to bond with an animal and have him learn anything, especially how to trust you. It is exactly what it sounds like, an expresion of frustration by the human. It also shows the aminal that you have lost your power to reason.

I would hope that these statements of in any way shape or form of hitting a dog would be contested by the powers that be of Go Corgi, esuring the general public reading here that this board does bot believe in hitting corgis or any other dog.

I dont believe in hitting them either but what i am saying is, she wont listen to verble things. My parents said that if she doesnt listen to verble then give her a spank. I asked my mother what does a spank tell them and she says that it tells them that what their doing is wrong and not to do it again. Which she hasnt been. its not like im beating her to death. I dont do it all day, just when its nessasary (when she puts the leash in her mouth since I cant get the bitter apple spray to absorb into the leash). Everyone has different onlooks of dissapline. People spank their children sometimes for acting out as well.

And we dont have enough room in the living room or any other room to have an xpen. I just have a dog gate up at the kitchen door where she only as access to the kitchen/front room. And she is supervised since I stay in here with her. She doesnt get into alot of things as you may think she does. Just mainly my sisters cords, which is her fault because she leaves them out and will not put them up. When my cat was a kitten, we used to spank her to let her know that she wasnt suppost to do certain things and it didnt harm our bond. We are close and have a good bond

and to clear up the difference between spank and hit (which there is a difference, even i know that an im 17). here are the definitions:
hit - to come into contact with forecully;strike.to reach with or as if with a blow

spank - To slap on the buttocks with a flat object or with the open hand, as for punishment.
So you see there is a big difference. Hitting to me is like your beating something up with force an a spank is to tell them what what their doing is wrong. Even my mom agrees with these definitions.