Is this normal puppy/dog behavior?

[corgimom]

http://www.thepetprofessor.com/artic...cle.aspx?id=84

An appropriate article above for this thread

[bubblegumbarbe79]

i read the time out section and i dont like to put her in her crate for time out because i read somewhere where their crate is suppost to be a place for them to be comfertable in and safe, like a den.I dont want her to come to where she doesnt like her crate. Ive seen people use rolled up new papers many many times and even my dad recomended me using one. I know everyone has different oppinons on things but spanking our cat didnt harm our bond. She has a good bond with all of us in the household, she doesnt cower down or run away from us.

[darci]

I would suggest you and your mother go to a puppy class with your new pup.
Check with your vet for a referral.

[bubblegumbarbe79]

Originally Posted by darci

I would suggest you and your mother go to a puppy class with your new pup.
Check with your vet for a referral.

oh we are darci .We're going to the vet on the 11th an Im going to ask her when she can be around other dogs since I dont remember what all shots they need before they can.Then we'll call petsmart or petco to ask them. I just hope that they have spots avalible *cross fingers*.

[corgimom]

http://www.puppies-and-dogs.net/Puppy-Discipline.php

Here is another link to this thread

I like Cindy, suggest that your family all take part, soon, in puppy classes with Lexy to learn what appropriate training really is all about. I have 3 cats and spanking a cat does not teach them to behave.

And if you put your name in NOW,with PetsMart or Petco on a waiting list for a puppy class, they will gladly call you. That way, you won't have to keep your fingers crossed, they will fit you right into one of their classes that fit your schedule.

[bubblegumbarbe79]

Originally Posted by corgimom

http://www.puppies-and-dogs.net/Puppy-Discipline.php

Here is another link to this thread

I like Cindy, suggest that your family all take part, soon, in puppy classes with Lexy to learn what appropriate training really is all about. I have 3 cats and spanking a cat does not teach them to behave.

It taught our cat not to do certain things and she doesnt do them today and she trusts us very well.

Im sure all you (well most of yall) here have your own homes and cant let them stratch, chew up anything, well here we cant because we do not own our place. People beside us had 2 chuchuahas (i can never spell that), and they left them un surpervised and they stratched up the doors, ruined the carpet and such and he made them pay $1000 dollars for the damage. So we do not want that to happen to us. An as I said in many other posts, I am going to try to take her to puppy classes, Im just hoping they have avalible spots open when we go.

edit - I didnt know you could have your name put on a list. Thanks for telling me that linda!

[corgimom]

Many of us own our own homes, that doesn't mean that we allow our dogs to do destructive things to them...you have been offered advice on here.

If you call PetsMart now or Petco and discuss Lexy with them, they will gladly inform you of their upcoming classes and put you on a list now. This way, you won't have to worry about them "not having available spots for you" After talking with your vet, if he seems to feel that she is still too young to go, you can always cancel the class.

If your vet feels that Lexy is too young to attend class, then purchase a good
puppy training book and spend lots of time reading it and practicing what you read. You should have lots of time, since you said you are neither in school or working.

[bubblegumbarbe79]

Originally Posted by corgimom

Many of us own our own homes, that doesn't mean that we allow our dogs to do destructive things to them...you have been offered advice on here.

If you call PetsMart now or Petco and discuss Lexy with them, they will gladly inform you of their upcoming classes and put you on a list now. This way, you won't have to worry about them "not having available spots for you" After talking with your vet, if he seems to feel that she is still too young to go, you can always cancel the class.

If your vet feels that Lexy is too young to attend class, then purchase a good
puppy training book and spend lots of time reading it and practicing what you read. You should have lots of time, since you said you are neither in school or working.

i know that even people with their own homes doesnt like it (which i wouldnt either) and i didnt mean it that way. What I ment was that we have to be careful of what she chews and such. I had my mom call and she schdueled classes for october 5th @ 4pm for little lexy . Im sure the vet will let us since she would be about 14-15wks by then.

[Chip's Mom]

You seem to be quite knowledgable about puppy's because you have read about tipping them on their back when they growl and also not using a crate for discipline so it is hard to believe that you haven't read somewhere that you should never hit or "softly spank" a puppy, especially the corgi breed. Maybe a corgi pup isn't right for you and you should have gotten a different breed. You have had 2 and neither one seem to have worked out for you. Everyone else on this forum agrees that you should never hit a puppy but you seem to be stuck on this issue. You do not take our advice and I am not sure what answer you are looking for.

[bubblegumbarbe79]

Originally Posted by Chip's Mom

You seem to be quite knowledgable about puppy's because you have read about tipping them on their back when they growl and also not using a crate for discipline so it is hard to believe that you haven't read somewhere that you should never hit or "softly spank" a puppy, especially the corgi breed. Maybe a corgi pup isn't right for you and you should have gotten a different breed. You have had 2 and neither one seem to have worked out for you. Everyone else on this forum agrees that you should never hit a puppy but you seem to be stuck on this issue. You do not take our advice and I am not sure what answer you are looking for.

I havent had 2 others, just 1 an I had to give her away due to that she couldnt get along with our cat. We had to think about her saftey, you didnt see what all she had to go through. If I was Autumn, I wouldnt of liked it either. She'd litterally just jump on her back (could of injured her), she'd bite her tail, ram her into walls and misc objects through out the house everday. She just wouldnt leave her alone for 1 second. My cat had to practually live under my bed because of that. If she wouldnt of bothered her like that than we'd probably have her today.

My parents are the ones that told me to spank her an I listened to them. Im not looking for an answer on discipline. I started this thread because of her growling issues and they are almost gone. I love the corgi breed and I dont care much for the others. I had to get something small. People have suggested jack russells, which i dont really care for them and suggested poodles an I dont like them and they seem like for more spiffy- uppity uppity people. Chuchuahas (sp?) and breeds its size are too small an Id be afraid that Id step on them. Corgis just stand out to me. Everyone has different oppinons on different things and beliefs. And my parents believe in spanking and thats all. Im sorry to whom doesnt like it but thats what we believe in in our household.

[Michael Romanos]

KIMBERLY- you have listed your poor little pup, Lexy on Dogster as ANXIOUS, NOT PLAYFUL, AGGRESSIVE, SLEEPY, SILLY. But who is the silly one?

Spanking_ which is hitting - or using objects such as a rolled up newspaper or a stick on dogs to correct them is just another form of torturing a dog. It is straight out abuse no matter how muted the hitting is - largely because a dog - who is not a human - can't take it mentally. Ask any recommended canine behaviourist or animal behaviourist.

You have called your thread "Is this normal puppy behaviour" I ask - are you a normal owner of a beautiful and innocent Corgi pup. And the answer must be no.

How do you think Lexy has become angry - because you have shown her the way. All Corgi pups require a great amount of patience and effort and understanding and TLC. All you are achieving is a permanently adversely affected pup who will go the way of being aggressive, angry etc or tip the other - cowering, timidity etc. Dogs store these moments of angry respones from people and it causes them great stress, sometimes for the rest of their lives. Harsh words, let alone smacking and kicking, and even harshly picking up a dog and out of control jerking of a leash, can result in a lifetime of anguish for the pup/dog. And puppies are much more vunerable. The perfect balance requires a complete revision on your part of your actions and begs the question, are you worthy to be the guardian of a Corgi puppy/dog or any dog.

I suggest you get rid of your page on Dogster - it is insulting to Corgi lovers and is a terrible advertisement for a breed of dog that the majority of Go Corgi members and Corgi owners who have their dogs listed on Dogster, have an enormous affection for.

[bubblegumbarbe79]

Originally Posted by Michael Romanos

KIMBERLY- you have listed your poor little pup, Lexy on Dogster as ANXIOUS, NOT PLAYFUL, AGGRESSIVE, SLEEPY, SILLY. But who is the silly one?

Spanking_ which is hitting - or using objects such as a rolled up newspaper or a stick on dogs to correct them is just another form of torturing a dog. It is straight out abuse no matter how muted the hitting is - largely because a dog - who is not a human - can't take it mentally. Ask any recommended canine behaviourist or animal behaviourist.

You have called your thread "Is this normal puppy behaviour" I ask - are you a normal owner of a beautiful and innocent Corgi pup. And the answer must be no.

How do you think Lexy has become angry - because you have shown her the way. All Corgi pups require a great amount of patience and effort and understanding and TLC. All you are achieving is a permanently adversely affected pup who will go the way of being aggressive, angry etc or tip the other - cowering, timidity etc. The perfect balance requires a complete revision on your part of your actions and begs the question, are you worthy to be the guardian of a Corgi puppy/dog or any dog.

I suggest you get rid of your page on Dogster - it is insulting to Corgi lovers and is a terrible advertisement for a breed of dog that the majority of Go Corgi members and Corgi owners who have their dogs listed on Dogster, have an enormous affection for.

I didnt list her as agressive,anxious, not playfull or silly. I suggest you re-read it again and you go by the blue markers not the tan ones. She does sleep alot and thats not a lie. Not all corgis are full of energy just like people. And she is very playful, she always wants to play. She stared the growling before we started to discipline her and now she hardly even does that anymore. She doesnt show signs of anger, so please re-read. She was in a new home, testing the rules and she has learnt that that kind of growling isnt tolerant here.

I started this thread to ask if that growling was normal or not since our previous one didnt do that. You dont have to be so freaking rude. I am a normal person who loves animals and has had them all throught out my life. Just because your a moderator doesnt mean you have to be so rude to people here who wasnt rude to you in the first place.

An I do not have to get rid of my dogster page just because you said so. Im keeping it there so people can see her and to show her off. Everyone in our house loves her and thinks she cute. We just have a different way of using discipline an im sorry that you dont like it. She doesnt cower down or run away. She comes to everyone that she sees. You just use your way and we will use ours. We raised a beautiful and perfect cat with her way of handling animals an I couldnt of asked for a better one.

[Michael Romanos]

Kimberly - someone played a trick on me - when I first clicked onto your Dogster page, instead of the traits chart, I got oneliners which said Lexy was anxious, not playful, aggressive, sleepy and silly.
My apologies - I could hardly believe what I was reading. Must take it up with the Dogster people.
The rest of my post, I stand by. I go to agility, and anyone who admonishes or otherwise treat their dog harshly for a perceived error while on the course - either in training or in competition, is shunned. And it is against the rules. I have never seen anyone hit their dog at these agility meetings,and hope never to see it. Hitting dogs to any extent has long been outmoded and abandoned as better understanding of dogs and their psyche emerged.

[glencorgi]

Originally Posted by bubblegumbarbe79

and to clear up the difference between spank and hit (which there is a difference, even i know that an im 17). here are the definitions:
hit - to come into contact with forecully;strike.to reach with or as if with a blow

spank - To slap on the buttocks with a flat object or with the open hand, as for punishment.
So you see there is a big difference. Hitting to me is like your beating something up with force an a spank is to tell them what what their doing is wrong. Even my mom agrees with these definitions.

slap - a sharp blow with an open hand

They're all synonyms, no matter how you want to split hairs.

Debbie

[bubblegumbarbe79]

Originally Posted by Michael Romanos

Kimberly - someone played a trick on me - when I first clicked onto your Dogster page, instead of the traits chart, I got oneliners which said Lexy was anxious, not playful, aggressive, sleepy and silly.
My apologies - I could hardly believe what I was reading. Must take it up with the Dogster people.
The rest of my post, I stand by. I go to agility, and anyone who admonishes or otherwise treat their dog harshly for a perceived error while on the course - either in training or in competition, is shunned. And it is against the rules. I have never seen anyone hit their dog at these agility meetings,and hope never to see it. Hitting dogs to any extent has long been outmoded and abandoned as better understanding of dogs and their psyche emerged.

Thats alright about dogster michael. Perhaps it was messing up! I wouldnt spank one during agilty/competition either because I dont think its nessasary. If they knock a pole dole, so what, they tried their best. If they didnt Sit, Or Lie down, or walk grand on the leash in a competition, so what, they've tried they've best. Some people just think they have to be the best and #1 at those things when I think if they tried their best, thats all that they can do.

glencorgi- We dont spank her with a sharp blow, never ever, not even a person. Its a light tap on her butt to be more specific and telling her not to do it. She's getting better at minding too. What all do they do when you go to puppy classes anyways?