Agressive Corgis?

[milles2]

Being the worry wart.... Just before I got Lulu I thought Tucker was starting to be too protective of me. I was told by a breeder when I was doing my search that male corgis many times get over protective of single-woman-owners.

When he was on leash and we approached another dog, if I said hello first, he would start a mild snarl, curl his lip. He never lunged, and if the dog was willing, he'd stop the snarl after a few seconds, they sniff buts, and life was good. I got to the point that I never said hello first, I let him get the sniffing and greeting out of the way, then I'd ooh and aww over the other dog.

That was one thing that made me start thinking seriously about a 2nd dog. I was told if he had to share me, he would be less protective.

I have to say, now that we have Lulu, he hasn't changed much. Now I wonder if he's protective of her and me.

What is very interesting to me is that this happens only when on leash. When he and any other dog are off leash, it's sniff city then off to play.

He's beens socialized since he was 11 weeks old, Day care since he was 4 months old, I take him everywhere so he meets lots of dogs and people. But this snarl thing really bugs me.

When he starts it I quickly apologize to the other dog owner, pull him away, and make him lie down quietly for a minute or two. Just to give him a time out.

There's never been anything behind the snarl, he's all noise, but I don't want it to get to a point where he might actually do something.

[sweetlychee]

Regarding Caesar Millan - if tough love works, then all for it. This prevents something bad that can occur to the dog or other people/animals.

Milo is not aggressive. But, he does get very possessive/jealous of my fiance. Even when I go hug him, Milo jumps up to us (either to play or join in). When he's on the bed with fiance and I take him down, he growls at me not wanting to leave the bed. He did that to other family members too. I told him he can't sleep on the bed with him. When I playfully hit my fiance, Milo barks at me. Sigh. That dog loves him. He's constantly with him so I know he's possessive. Now, I wonder what would happen with kids in the future?

After he growls, I pet him and he wants to lick or play with me again. He never bites us or snaps at us. He just likes to bark or growl.

[Dillydoodle]

Mable,
by petting him after he growls, you are reinforcing his growling...You gave him a reward for growling at you. When a dog is in a bad frame of mind, growling, or fearful, and you go to comfort them or coddle them, you have rewarded them for feeling that way, and it keeps them in that same frame of mind, you need to correct the behavior you dont want...be assertive with him and let him know that this behavior is unwanted and will not be tolerated or he will continue to do it.
Emilie

[Chip's Mom]

At feeding time, Chip will follow Lady into the bathroom where she can eat in privacy and he will bark at her all the way. I tell him stop in a stern voice and steer him to his feed dish and now he hardly does it at all. That is what I would do to Milo is tell him stop firmly and do not reward him or pet him until he stops it and behaves himself. I would not playfully hit your fiance in front of Milo or do anything that may encourage this type of behavior. If you do not correct this now, you may have problems when he gets older. Chip would growl when he was nothing more than a little bitty tiny baby and over a period of a couple weeks of discipline, he stopped. he never growls anymore. In my opinion (for whatever it is worth) growling is not good.

[Fluffypants]

Jackie used to test me with growling when she was younger. But she soon learned that mommy doesn't go for that $#@% . . . so no more growling. She may be stubborn . . . but I am MORE stubborn. What I say goes.
(and now I hear Tim Allen's apelike grunting in my head - AR AR AR)

[corgimom]

Originally Posted by Chip's Mom

At feeding time, Chip will follow Lady into the bathroom where she can eat in privacy and he will bark at her all the way. I tell him stop in a stern voice and steer him to his feed dish and now he hardly does it at all. That is what I would do to Milo is tell him stop firmly and do not reward him or pet him until he stops it and behaves himself. I would not playfully hit your fiance in front of Milo or do anything that may encourage this type of behavior. If you do not correct this now, you may have problems when he gets older. Chip would growl when he was nothing more than a little bitty tiny baby and over a period of a couple weeks of discipline, he stopped. he never growls anymore. In my opinion (for whatever it is worth) growling is not good.

I agree with Bonnie, if Milo is acting that way when you playfully hit your fiance, then I just would not do that. You mentioned on how he may behave around future children. Young kids/toddlers move very fast and sometimes wrestle in play with each other or sometimes with dad(in a fun way) and Milo might not like that if he is protective of your hubby.

And I would not put up with my dog growling at me.

[Dillydoodle]

OH Jessica you crack me up. (tim allen grunting haha). I really agree with bonnie that you shouldnt play fight with your fiance becuause you could be sending the wrong message to Milo, he may not understand the difference between a real fight and a play fight. Dillon used to test me as well with growling if he was bothered while sleeping, and we quickly broke him of that...We correct him everytime he does something we dont like, if we let it slide just once, he thinks it means he can do whatever he wants - it only takes one time to undo the last 10 times of reinforcing them correctly. They are subborn little dogs and we have to be more stubborn than they are - and consistancy is the key with them in my opinion.

Emilie

[Fluffypants]

Originally Posted by Dillydoodle

OH Jessica you crack me up. (tim allen grunting haha). I really agree with bonnie that you shouldnt play fight with your fiance becuause you could be sending the wrong message to Milo, he may not understand the difference between a real fight and a play fight. Dillon used to test me as well with growling if he was bothered while sleeping, and we quickly broke him of that...We correct him everytime he does something we dont like, if we let it slide just once, he thinks it means he can do whatever he wants - it only takes one time to undo the last 10 times of reinforcing them correctly. They are subborn little dogs and we have to be more stubborn than they are - and consistancy is the key with them in my opinion.

Emilie

Very true Emilie - consistency is key. There are many times that I am tempted to let Jackie's behavior slide, just this one time . . . but then I realize how much damage that could do, so I have to force my lazy butt to deal with and correct it. You can't let anything unacceptable slide, or they will be quick to capitalize on it. Too smart for their own good!

[LittlePonzo]

I totally agree. Do not pet a dog for growling at you, even if you are trying to calm him down. He doesn't see it that way...Cesar Millan's rules, exercise, discipline, then affection. By petting him you skip the discipline and go right to affection there by reinforcing the growling. Ponzo has never once tried to growl at us, even if he jumps on the window to watch people and strangers show up at the neighbors next door, if he so much as even starts to bark at them he gets corrected. Boy does he hate that water bottle and the "shh" sound with the point. Gets him everytime though!
PS- I saw the episode you were talking about...Boy was that Jindo bad! Thank god for Cesar...although pardon my thinking out loud, but the original owners of that dog must not have put 5 seconds into thinking what dog they would want..a Jindo, that's like getting a smaller Akita on a whim. Are you nuts!!??

[Dillydoodle]

This is what i was saying earlier that people need to research the breed of dogs they are interested in - to make sure that the dog would fit into their particular family - way too many people are out picking dogs for the wrong reasons. If you are a very submissive type person, please , don't get a Rottweiler....If you are a super lazy couch potato, please , dont get a viszla. these are just bad matches. If you are too lazy to take the time to train a dog (minimally the basics) then get a CAT!
Emilie

[corgimom]

Originally Posted by Dillydoodle

This is what i was saying earlier that people need to research the breed of dogs they are interested in - to make sure that the dog would fit into their particular family - way too many people are out picking dogs for the wrong reasons. If you are a very submissive type person, please , don't get a Rottweiler....If you are a super lazy couch potato, please , dont get a viszla. these are just bad matches. If you are too lazy to take the time to train a dog (minimally the basics) then get a CAT!
Emilie

But you still have to get off the sofa to clean the litter box

[Dillydoodle]

LOL linda! well, this is true but scooping poop out of a cat box doesnt take any REAL effort...If that is too much effort for a person, then they should just stick with a stuffed animal- i saw these really freaky ones - the one i saw was a kitty curled up sleeping in a catbed-- and the body moved like it was breathing, it was really quite disturbing to me.

Emilie

[corgimom]

Originally Posted by Dillydoodle

LOL linda! well, this is true but scooping poop out of a cat box doesnt take any REAL effort...If that is too much effort for a person, then they should just stick with a stuffed animal- i saw these really freaky ones - the one i saw was a kitty curled up sleeping in a catbed-- and the body moved like it was breathing, it was really quite disturbing to me.

Emilie

Or a cement statue would work also

[Fluffypants]

Originally Posted by Dillydoodle

LOL linda! well, this is true but scooping poop out of a cat box doesnt take any REAL effort...If that is too much effort for a person, then they should just stick with a stuffed animal- i saw these really freaky ones - the one i saw was a kitty curled up sleeping in a catbed-- and the body moved like it was breathing, it was really quite disturbing to me.

Emilie

Ick - that's freaky!
But, then, those bobble-head dolls freak me out too.

[milles2]

I have had dog visitors prior to getting Lulu. One had some food issues so I put Tuck outside while he ate then put him outside while Tuck ate.

With Lulu I was hell bent they would eat together at the same time. I pulled a Cesar Milan (I know, they say "do not attempt this at home...): I put the dishes of food about 10 feet apart and the second one would move towards the other's dish I would physically stand between them and the dish and block them. According to Cesar this tells them that I decide who will eat and from what dish. I am letting them have their food.

We did this for 2-3 days and now they eat from separate dishes about 5 feet apart. I can even leave the room and they never try to go at each other's food dish.

Yeah!!!!! Sucess!