Milo's 2nd Playdate - A BARK FEST

[Dillydoodle]

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[Dillydoodle]

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[corgimom]

That "Cash" is absolutely beautiful along with her other dogs.

Mabel, I am sorry to hear about your finance and losing his job - I hope something comes his way soon.

[Fluffypants]

Originally Posted by Dillydoodle

Jessica: I have been watching her site for a while actually before I got DIllon- as I was checking out all of the breeders in the area...plus my friend had her two rotties in her competition obedience class. Cash is precious! I am a sucker for her dog Grant ( who's daddy is Dillon AND Jackie's Great, great grandfather - Ike, XIII Maples Stellar Idea) take a look at his agility pics, oh wow is he something! Looks like super corgi to me.

Yes Linda, i read her rainbow bridge section on her site and true to form for me, I cried.


Emilie

I met Grant, he is a sweetie, and I saw Cash at one week Just a little tiny peanut. It's a Corgiholic's paradise at her house!!! I didn't want to leave!!!! She also has horses, cats and a pool . . . it's like my dream home!!

[corgimom]

Jessica,

Did you check out the fluffies on her site - the one in the clown outfit?

[sweetlychee]

Thanks, Emilie. I won't worry too much on..I'll try not to. I'm a natural born worrier. He is smart and works hard. Just the company did something really stupid and is bankrupt. Haha. Just the hassle of interviewing, resume work, and finding another job. We both changed jobs in June and his ended way too soon.

I think Milo will be happy that he can play with daddy more now.

[Jespah]

Good for you for being positive Mabel. I just saw an article where losing your job can be the best thing for you. Maybe something better is just around the corner for him. We all hope so.

[Fluffypants]

Originally Posted by corgimom

Jessica,

Did you check out the fluffies on her site - the one in the clown outfit?

I did!

Mabel - what line of work is your fiancee in? Being that I live in Westchester and work in The City, maybe I'll know someone I can put him in contact with. And, by the way, I envy your positive outlook. You are a strong woman!

[Chip's Mom]

Depending on the circumstances, ignoring them does work - Chip used to bark and attack the vacuum cleaner every time I got it out and I just ignored him and went about vacuuming corgi fluff. Now he doesn't even pay any attention to it. Now Lady, when there is a thunder storm, she hides and trembles and pants. Very sad to see her. I think she had been shot at before we got her. One day, she will probably have a heart attack. I would not even think of playing a tape of a storm - she is 14 and it would cause way to much stress.

[darci]

What is a lychee ???

[sweetlychee]

Originally Posted by darci

What is a lychee ???

It is a tropical fruit tree native from southern China and Vietnam south to Indonesia and east to the Philippines. The outside is covered by a red, roughly-textured rind that is inedible but easily removed. The inside consists of a layer of sweet, translucent white flesh, rich in vitamin C, with a texture somewhat similar to that of a grape. The edible flesh consists of a highly developed aril enveloping the seed. The centre contains a single glossy brown nut-like seed, 2 cm long and 1-1.5 cm in diameter. The seed, similar to a buckeye seed, is slightly poisonous and should not be eaten. The fruit matures from July to October, about 100 days after flowering.

And it's expensive too!

[milles2]

Sweetlychee:
Is it a matter of finding the right dogs to play with Milo?

Send Milo over to play with Lulu. She will chase and play rough but one of the first things she does is rollover on her back and show submission when she meets new dogs. She almost always does this when she meets a new dog.

Tucker rarely does this. About the only time I see him be submissive to other dogs is when he visits his buddies across the road - the dobermans. These dogs are all legs and Tuck loves to herd them, run between their legs, and get them chasing him. When they finally catch him, he immediately rolls over and is submissive.

The dobermans act like they don't know what to make of him so they play bow and the games begin again. They really have a great temperament.

And as for "they are not pack dogs like hounds and only need humans".... I guess I've never heard this.

I've always read that Corgis were social animals. I didn't realize it was human contact they needed and not other dogs.

Since Lulu came to live with us, Tuck gets snarky (snarl/growl/bark/ shows teeth) occasionally when he is on leash and meets another dog on leash. Off leash... no problem. He just runs and plays.

I took him to the dog park while visiting a friend and he ran around with all the dogs, no problem. All new dogs he'd never met before, all shapes and sizes (including a gorgeous Nefie!). His puppy sitter takes him to the dog park all the time for play groups. Now that Lulu has all her vaccinations, she goes too.

[Jane Austen]

Sweetlychee,
I am sorry that the tapes that I sent of Caesar Millan have not gotten to you yet. I went to the P.O. where I was given a form to fill out with all the info on it. I will take that back today and see what they can do. They may not be able to do more than return my postage. I was hoping that they would trace the mail. The man mentioned something about a month before there will be any results.
Does everyone know that at the book stores there is books/manuels on dog training under the title "Dog Whisperer" but they are not by Caesar Millan. A bit of trivia?

[Jespah]

I'm not sure who said Corgis are not pack dogs and only need humans, but I disagree. Dogs are pack animals period. That could mean all dogs in the pack or in the modern urban dog's life a pack means a combo of dog/human/and other domesticated pets such as cats. As the alpha you are the leader of the pack and your dog(s) should fall under your postion somewhere. In my house, I'm alpha, then the cats, then the dogs. I do everything to show the dogs that the cats have a higher place so they don't get any ideas about dominating them.

In Susan's case, I would guess that Tucker sees himself being higher than Lulu and is "protecting" her on walks.

[glencorgi]

Originally Posted by Jespah

I'm not sure who said Corgis are not pack dogs and only need humans, but I disagree.

That would have probably been me and a variation of something I said. Corgis are not pack animals in the same way Beagles and other hounds are. There may have been one or two on a Welsh farmstead, not a passel of a half dozen or more. [/quote]

Dogs are pack animals period. That could mean all dogs in the pack or in the modern urban dog's life a pack means a combo of dog/human/and other domesticated pets such as cats.

Right. This illustrates the point I was trying to make in regards to Sweetlychee and others who fall into a trap of my doggie needs canine friends and buddies to play with and go about setting up playdates. One's corgi's life is not incomplete IF he/she does not do the playdates, doggie daycare or whatever; he/she has its pack, the one Deb described. In Milo's case it is very stressful for him to be around other dogs; 99% of his experiences with them have been negative. He is also being sent negative messages about children when there have been not so pleasant encounters with them by the humans and that message is going right down the leash. With Milo, size nor breed is not going to matter - he is uncomfortable and highly stressed being with other dogs. For this issue desensitizing needs to be done and I would recommend reading Patricia McConnell's [I=]Don't Shoot the Dog[/i]. For the resource guarding he's doing with Sweetlychee's fiance, there Cesar Millan's could help with teaching the humans how to be in charge and leaders of the pack. That behavior does not forebode well with him being accepting of a baby down the road.

As the alpha you are the leader of the pack and your dog(s) should fall under your postion somewhere. In my house, I'm alpha, then the cats, then the dogs. I do everything to show the dogs that the cats have a higher place so they don't get any ideas about dominating them.

Right!

In Susan's case, I would guess that Tucker sees himself being higher than Lulu and is "protecting" her on walks.

I agree and this also brings me back to my point of corgis not being "pack" breeds in the same sense hounds are. They are probably closer to the livestock guarding breeds in - these are my people and these are my other pack members - stay away. Also since Tucker had started showing a bit of snarkiness when on leash with other dogs - the leash is a key here. Susan rightly got on top of the issue when the behavior first displayed and is now on a little higher alert for potential incidents. Being on alert is going down the lead to Tucker and in a sense "instigating" the behavior. It's a hard line to balance of staying in control and yet relaxed and being on guard about not sending unwanted messages to our dogs.

Debbie

PS: Jane I did know about the other book(s) titled the Dog Whisperer and I have one of them around here somewhere. Cesar Millan is a late comer to the title and IF it weren't for his TV show and appearances on Oprah, not many people would know of him.