Milo's 2nd Playdate - A BARK FEST

[corgimom]

Thanks Deb,

So with me taking Cody to dog daycare one day a week or every two weeks, it is really making me feel better thinking that this is something that is good for him or that he needs in regards to socializing This is his boarding facility also, and dog day care is part of the package, meaning, they won't just board your dog in a kennel unless they are over 8 years old; they have to participate in the day care aspect.

I thought that if I took him there on a regular basis, once every two weeks) when we do board him for a couple of days, it would just be easier on him with being socialized with other dogs on a frequent basis. Guess I could be putting my money to better uses knowing that the dog daycare is not something he needs to do; and I will just use the place for boarding when
needed.

And the dog parks are probably more for the owners in regards to their socialization with other dog owners; yet at the same time, the dog expends energy and gets their exercise. So many people get a second dog thinking their dog needs a friend, so really, this is not the case, but just satisfies the owners needs of wanting another dog for what ever reason?(but in the situation where the owner is gone working all day, then a second dog would be helpful)?

[Fluffypants]

Originally Posted by corgimom

And the dog parks are probably more for the owners in regards to their socialization with other dog owners; yet at the same time, the dog expends energy and gets their exercise.

hmmmm . . . I think I might be the antisocial loner of the dog park! I rarely talk to anyone, I want to keep my eyes on the dogs (especially mine!) to make sure they are all playing nice.

Linda - even though Cody may not NEED to go to daycare, I'm sure he enjoys it. And it probably is a good idea to have him be familiar with the place, so when you board him it is less traumatic.

[Jespah]

Thanks Debbie (Glencorgi) for the clarification on what you meant by pack dogs, I do agree with your original statement now in context.

Linda, I still think it's good for Cody to go to daycare occassionally for the socialization and the exercise. And as you said you board him there when necessary, it would be less stressful for him to be boarded (is that a word?) where he is familiar with the surroundings and people.

[corgimom]

Originally Posted by sweetlychee

Hey Guys,

Thanks for all the links and private message for trainers. We found one recommended by our vet: Link This guy is named George and he said a 10 week course for $600. The odd thing is that we only need to drop off Milo there - no need to stay. He will teach all the basic commands and help Milo with his fears of dogs.

Do you guys think that's a good deal or sounds good? It's close by to our home and convenient but I find it odd that we don't need to be present for the training. We just need to drop him off. Please take a look at the site and give me your input.

Mabel,

I am just curious, did you find out any more information about this training place above? - Were you able to finally find a place you can take Milo to in regards to helping you and Milo with some of his issues you have been discussing that were of concern to you?

And I realize what Deb(Glencorgi) is saying is that doggy play dates aren't a necessity in order for our dogs to be happy or adjusted, more something we do for ourselves in getting out and meeting other dogs owners while at the same time exercising our dogs and having them romp
around a bit with each other.

[Jane Austen]

Well, those tapes I had sent came back to me today. I think I must have made a mistake on the address.( Yes, I had it at ninth st.) As soon as I can I will put them in the mail but that may not be until Monday as tomorrow is supposed to be terribly windy and wet.

[Michael Romanos]

It doesn't matter one iota how late Cesar Millan is - it's how good and effective he is that counts - and he seems to be a winner in that regard. Even Jesus has his distractors and unbelievers - and He was 'late' in coming into the world many, many centuries after the great prophets of the Old Testament. Now I am not comparing Cesar with Jesus -but Jesus did say something like this: " give to Cesar what is Cesar's and to God what is God's."
Jespah is right of course, Corgis are as much a pack dog as is any other though some breeds are more acute in this regard.
Corgis need to socialise with other dogs and particularly with other Corgis - it obviously is desirable for them to do so and those who cannot socialise because of an anti-social attitude, largely brought about by lack of contact from a young age with other dogs, are much the poorer for it. A dog park, whilst not a common facility in New Zealand - for instance there are no dog parks ( I take it that dog parks in the USA are football field/s-size areas reserved for letting dogs frolic) in the region I live in - but in some of the cities within the region there are designated dog walking tracks and trails which can go on for miles. Dog parks and such are surely a three-fold thing - for both people (ie dog ownershandlers) and dogs to socialise and for dogs exercising off-leash.

[glencorgi]

Originally Posted by Michael Romanos

It doesn't matter one iota how late Cesar Millan is - it's how good and effective he is that counts - and he seems to be a winner in that regard.

Oh sheesh Michael! Jane was asking about or perhaps giving a warning that there were other books available in her local bookstore called The Dog Whisperer that were not by Cesar Millan. I knew that and even have one of them. The moniker of "Dog Whisperer" has been capitalized upon ever since the movie The Horse Whisperer with Robert Redford came out years ago. How good and/or how effective he is, well if Oprah Winfrey's dogs are any barometer, I would say he's very overrated. The point is - Cesar Millan isn't the first to capitalize on that description or title.

Even Jesus has his distractors and unbelievers - and He was 'late' in coming into the world many, many centuries after the great prophets of the Old Testament. Now I am not comparing Cesar with Jesus -but Jesus did say something like this: " give to Cesar what is Cesar's and to God what is God's."

It is getting a little deep with the analogy here, might need to save my watch. But to keep in the same vein, there were also a lot of false prophets. Regardless of whether one agrees with or what one thinks of Millan's techniques, training methods or philosophies it cannot be denied he is an illegal alien who came to America and is living the American dream very successfully. His connections with the Hollywood actors crowd help launch him into guest appearances on shows like Oprah Winfrey's which helped him be known to Jane Q Petowner who introduced him to her hubby John. This exposure furthered his career and getting his own show now on the National Geographic channel. "Cesar Millan's Dog Training Show" just doesn't quite have the same punch as a show called "The Dog Whisperer," and bestowing that title on him is a brilliant PR marketing ploy. That moniker sells - sells his tv show, his books and his seminars. All this has brought him to his current status as the dog trainer celebrity du jour. Personally given the choice of a ticket to attend one of Cesar's seminars or one by Ian Dunbar, or Patricia McConnell, or Suzanne Clothier, or Jean Donaldson; I'd go with anyone of the latter over his any day. Not much of what he does is new or innovative, been around for years - shoot "Cesar's Way" is what my B-I-L has been doing for nearly 40 years.

Cesar Millan has been made a celebrity, is cashing in on it and making millions along the way, which is fine and wonderful - that's the American way. The public eye he has, further brings into millions of homes the need to train one's dogs. (The training classes at PetsMart and the other chain pet supply stores are contributing to this educational effort as well.) Him making owners aware dogs are not children in fur suits is one of the positive messages getting into homes among others.

Debbie

[Chip's Mom]

The pictures are showing what happened with Milo's playdate and the other thread is where sweetlychee is looking into correcting this fear that Milo has so you can see that a playdate is not going to help poor little Milo. He needs interaction with other dogs where he is not going to feel threatened and in a controlled environment.

[Michael Romanos]

Debbie - I though at least YOU had a sense of humour. That 'give to Cesar the things that are Cesar's' etc was one of my better lines.
Maybe dog and dog owner training is less diverse than what one would think or is it that great minds think alike. Cesar Millan is a showman and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. The great presidents of the USA have been exactly that: Showmen. Winston Churchill, with all his faults and failings and disasters, was a Showman. And they all get and use ideas gathered in from others and mix them in with their own.

[glencorgi]

Originally Posted by Michael Romanos

Debbie - I though at least YOU had a sense of humour. That 'give to Cesar the things that are Cesar's' etc was one of my better lines.

Why do you think I felt the need to save my watch?

Debbie

[Michael Romanos]

You don't need a watch to tell the time - and you need one even less to watch time pass by.