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07-03-2006, 10:24 PM
If people can't use commonsense then someone else has to get them to wake up their ideas and if it is Governments calling the tune, so be it.
Michael:
I couldn't have said it better myself. That is exactly what I mean about people that breed dogs that don't use common sense.
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07-04-2006, 02:16 AM
I'm talking about proper care for animals whether its ordinary daily care or breeding situations. Goverments should have more tougher laws not less in this regard. And lets give the animal care organisations more powers - such as the SPCA. But it should be a two way deal - tougher laws more stringently policed and more organised freedom, and space for dogs and more dog ameniable attitudes.
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07-04-2006, 06:31 AM
If you want more laws,apply those to rearing children. There are alot of kids out there who have it alot worse than most dogs.
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07-04-2006, 06:46 AM
I agree with you Cindy. I am not so much for more laws but more common sense raising animals or children would be a great plus.
Bonnie
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07-04-2006, 08:13 AM
So very true Bonnie and Cindy,
And while people should exercise their dogs more by walking, etc. I do not
feel government should have any say in how often we do this.
linda
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07-04-2006, 09:44 AM
Any law is only as good as it's enforcement. That is the first step, use the laws that are there now to protect dogs. BYB is a particular topic that I am passionate about.
I could not imagine a situation where my gov't decreed the walking of my dogs.
I just came in from a very carefull walk with Montrose, my poor old dear does not any longer go for 'walks', but makes it a few yards down the road on her good days to sniff at her hearts content. Before that I walked Dylan, at a very particular stride, and timed too, as his post op instructions call for.
Any such gov't's rules and regulations would not apply to this mornings outings I am sure. It's a very scary thought.
I would support a law that regulated the sale of dogs, that would control, somewhat I would hope the BYB.
Greentrees' Top Royal Escort - DYLAN HIC, CGN, CD, FDN
Texanda's Montrose - MONTROSE (aka Monty) HIC
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07-04-2006, 06:52 PM
It's all about proper care and attention. If some people cant achieve this without Government and agency intervention then we just have to have laws that at least compel minimum standards. I say get tough on the owners and not the dogs. You can't walk a dog just once a day and nothing for the remainder- particularly if the dog is otherwise confined. For instance, dogs need to toilet more than once a day. So the law in whatever country this dog walking regulations prevails is not as stupid as you might think. Again, the authorities will take into account circumstances when applying the laws.
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07-04-2006, 07:01 PM
How on earth can government keep an eye on who walks their dog and when ?, and I certainly don't want them mandating how many times a day I should be doing this. - there can be so many factors as to when and if a dog is walked on a particular day - illness, whether it be the owner or the dog, weather - regarding how hot or bitterly cold it is. Is the dog recuperating from a surgery. One can walk a dog early morning, but then play with the dog in the backyard for a good hour throwing a ball or whatever toy he likes which would give the dog adequate exercise, or say, maybe taking the dog for a swim if the dog enjoys that.
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07-04-2006, 07:27 PM
BYB is where the govenment should be laying down laws, not dog walking.
Greentrees' Top Royal Escort - DYLAN HIC, CGN, CD, FDN
Texanda's Montrose - MONTROSE (aka Monty) HIC
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07-04-2006, 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael Romanos
It's all about proper care and attention. If some people cant achieve this without Government and agency intervention then we just have to have laws that at least compel minimum standards.
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There are already laws that compel minimum standards.
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I say get tough on the owners and not the dogs.
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And IF things are made too tough on owners with ridiculous laws, then what will happen to the dogs?
[QUTOE=] Again, the authorities will take into account circumstances when applying the laws.[/quote]
That is a pretty naive assumption, and knowing some of the authorities - not a risk I'm willing to take with my dogs.
Debbie
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07-04-2006, 10:37 PM
Not everyone think laws relating to proper care and attention of animals are ridiculous or that penalties for humans who treat animals poorly are anywhere near severe enough. The law in most countries treats most things in law on their merits. It's why we have courts and lawyers and legal systems and conciliation etc. If animal owners cannot provide even basic care and attention, they should get out of ownership or be driven out anyway.
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07-04-2006, 10:52 PM
Michael, if you were to lay down the law about the basic care of a dog, what would your rules be?
Greentrees' Top Royal Escort - DYLAN HIC, CGN, CD, FDN
Texanda's Montrose - MONTROSE (aka Monty) HIC
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07-05-2006, 06:36 AM
The law is black and white there arent any gray areas, it isnt an officer's job to assume anything or to take anything into account he has to follow the letter of the law.
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07-05-2006, 07:01 AM
Cindy,
you are right about that - just like here in Wisconsin with the puppy mills -
The officers have to follow the law, they cannot do things outside the
law even if these mills seem like puppy abuse. Sad, but true.
Linda
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