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Old 02-05-2007, 05:52 PM   #16 (permalink)
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You are the best! I get it now, thanks! I am going to check out that site.
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Old 02-05-2007, 05:55 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I can't believe I never saw that page before. That was great. It was so cool to see how they did that with the imaginary lines and all.
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Old 02-05-2007, 06:10 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Thanks Peggy for the clarification, i really was curious what made the big difference in the look of that show coat... one day i might grab mouse, a blow dryer and make Dillon all showy looking... LOL something tells me he will NOT be so happy about that !!! ( he hates the blowdryer...he perfers a toweling ,a frap and rolling all over the oriental rug leaving a ton of hair all over it!
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Old 02-05-2007, 06:13 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Hi Ponzo
If you are interested here is a site about Cardigan colors etc. My Blue Merle is mismark and is not show quality- he has a solid white head which is not a desired trait.
http://www.cardigancorgis.com/IS.asp
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Old 02-06-2007, 01:19 AM   #20 (permalink)
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A couple of quotes from the PWC standard:
"White is acceptable on legs, chest, neck (either in part or as a collar). muzzle, underparts and as a narrow blaze on head." and
"Mismarks -Self colors with any area of white on the back between withers and tail, on sides between elbows and back of hindquarters, or on ears. Black with white markings and no tan present."
Horray for my beautiful, mis-marked (white on ear) little boy!

And like Little Ponzo, he will always look like a puppy ("Is he a puppy?" - something I get asked at least once a week during neighborhood walks. )

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Old 02-06-2007, 01:56 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Taylor has a thin bit of a 'saddle' but basically he has a very soft and luscious coat. His coat is not in any way a fault for show purposes and the texture of his coat is similar to his father who is an Canadian, New Zealand and Australian conformation champ. So I cannot agree that soft coats on Pems are a fault or should be otherwise. I had a show champ Corgi who was short coated (but not overly so) and another who was thickly coated. Of all the Pems in the Wellington Welsh Corgi Walking Club, Taylor has the softest coat apart from Holly, the fluff.
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Old 02-06-2007, 04:30 AM   #22 (permalink)
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I have only seen 2 flurry or long haired Corgis in Singapore. Someone actually told me that the long haired Corgi is not of standard....is it true???
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Old 02-06-2007, 09:45 AM   #23 (permalink)
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A narrow strip of white! How narrow is narrow? See Liam the blaze-faced corgi at left. Not that the white is his worst feature. His pasterns can be touching and his left front foot goes east and the right go west. The better for fast turns while frapping! (Although I suspect we'll have some joint issues there in later life) Also, there is a dip behind the shoulders blending gently to a rise over the loin to a mildly higher rear end. The hocks are beautifully perpendicular and parallel and would rival any show dogs' rear.

Whoever bred this dog had no idea what they were doing. I'm sending the pics for his AKC ILP so I can show him in herding, obedience and agility so was worried about the coat issue. He's got a hard "tight" coat, just not long. I'm going to call it his "herding" coat. It suits me fine. I hated the big hair Goldens. I bred mine to have the correct double coat with moderate feathering. It was harder to win with them, but easier to live with in the swamp.

I adore this short-haired, wide white faced, little sausage.
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Old 02-06-2007, 10:09 AM   #24 (permalink)
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I have only seen 2 flurry or long haired Corgis in Singapore. Someone actually told me that the long haired Corgi is not of standard....is it true???
If you are talking about fluffies - then yes, that's true.

At first, I didn't understand why. But now having owned my precious fluffypants, I think I get it. Her coat seems to suck up water. It gets very heavy, and takes FOREVER to dry, even with multiple towelings and blow drying! So, I can see how this would not be good for a working dog in the field. Much better to have those harsh guard hairs - the wash & wear look.
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But he's the best for snugglin and will always look like a puppy, yippee!!
After looking at his new gallery pics, I must agree. He does look like a snuggler! Those ears really enhance his sweet facial expression - it begs to be snuggled!
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Lulu has the softest coat and very fine. But I swear she wears fluffy pants! can't wait to meet Miss Jackie Fluffy pants to compare notes w/ Lulu!

Lulu is a mis marked Pup too. Her white face + one white ear.

Like Wicca, I think she too is a beauty!
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Old 02-06-2007, 10:26 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Lulu has the softest coat and very fine. But I swear she wears fluffy pants! can't wait to meet Miss Jackie Fluffy pants to compare notes w/ Lulu!!
I actually trim Jackie to have those pants. Otherwise, she would have a long, luxurious skirt (see pics of ChloeLouise).


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Thanks Peggy for the clarification, i really was curious what made the big difference in the look of that show coat... one day i might grab mouse, a blow dryer and make Dillon all showy looking... LOL something tells me he will NOT be so happy about that !!! ( he hates the blowdryer...he perfers a toweling ,a frap and rolling all over the oriental rug leaving a ton of hair all over it!
LOL! He probably won't like it. Morgan doesn't either, he tolerates being blow dried. It took awhile to convince him he wasn't being killed!

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Old 02-06-2007, 05:39 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Taylor has a thin bit of a 'saddle' but basically he has a very soft and luscious coat.
What do you mean by a "bit of a 'saddle'"?

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His coat is not in any way a fault for show purposes and the texture of his coat is similar to his father who is an Canadian, New Zealand and Australian conformation champ. So I cannot agree that soft coats on Pems are a fault or should be otherwise.
Yes, it is a fault. It doesn't matter if you think so or not. According to the standard a soft textured coat is a fault.

The texture should be harsh and if it's not it's a fault. That doesn't mean the dog can't win or finish it's championship. ALL dogs have faults. The job of the judge is to put up the one that fits the standard best.

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Old 02-06-2007, 05:41 PM   #30 (permalink)
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I have only seen 2 flurry or long haired Corgis in Singapore. Someone actually told me that the long haired Corgi is not of standard....is it rue???
Yes, it's true. The long coat is a fault according to the standard.

The standards are "standards of perfection". What the "ideal" corgi should be like. Mother Nature makes sure that we never get the "perfect" corgi. So all dogs have faults.

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