Large Breed Food vs Regular Adult Food

[Michael Romanos]

Dogs are not inclined to complain - but their insides might at some stage down the line - sooner or later.

[corgimom]

Jhemphill,

I will have to offer frozen green beans with Cody, he does like green beans.

I figure if dogs find cat poop, rabbit poop, their own poop appealing enough to eat, as well as dead worms and other nasty stuff they find on the road, frozen fruits and veggies must seem like a wonderful treat to them; and most pleasing to their taste buds.

[glencorgi]

Dogs are not inclined to complain - but their insides might at some stage down the line - sooner or later.

<LOL> You should have met Misty.

And for crying out loud, dogs will frozen poop if given the opportunity and we should be worried about frozen green beans?

Debbie

[corgimom]

Cody's main meals are not frozen; the occasional feeding of half frozen fruits such as strawberries and blueberries are harmless to them; as well as green beans... just as much as an occasional popsicle is harmless to me.

[Michael Romanos]

I think promoting giving dogs frozen solid food is the wrong message to all those members who have puppies. Dogs may thnk they like or even love frozen food but that is no recommendation - the same with poop and chocolate coated sugar candy.

[corgimom]

Cody's main meals are not frozen. Offering a dog on occasional, half frozen strawberries or blueberries is harmless to them, as is frozen green beans - these things have lots of vitamins. They are as harmless to them as an occasional frozen fruit popsicle is to me - okay, please come forward...who is promoting corgis to eat poop?

[darci]

The frozen green beans as I have said before was on recomendation by my vet whom I trust. If it's not for you then thats your choice and thats ok to.

[glencorgi]

IF one of the corgi crew here doesn't like something, they either spit it out in their crate or I find it left in their food bowl. No thinking about it. Carrots are a good example. IF I place a whole baby carrot in a couple of the corgi's bowls, I'll find it when I'm cleaning up after dinner. IF I chopped one up very fine, they eat it along with their kibble. IF I chop it coarsely, I find the carrot pieces in their bowl. I've had corgis eat around freshly picked and cooked green beans - they don't like it, they don't eat it. End of discussion as far as they are concerened.

Now according to those who are experienced in feeding the BARF diet, vegetables can be cooked, pureed or frozen doesn't matter and this includes "baby food" BARF diets for puppies. Canines in the wild eat frozen foods in their scavaging depending upon the time of year. When wolves begin weaning their cubs, their first meals are what their mother regurgitates for them. This natural instinct isn't lost in our domesticated canines either, as I've seen corgi dams do it for their puppies.

No one is mandating that this is the definitive and only way to feed green bean or even that EVERY one should even feed them as some have done on the forum with other feeding recommendations. Frozen or partially thawed foods offer interest to their food providing different textures. It might be said someone isn't allowing their corgi's palate to develop to its full discriminating potential.

Debbie

[Michael Romanos]

Linda - I don't think you always see the irony in what I sometimes say.
No one is advising people to feed their dogs with poop and chocolate and I just want to make the point that dogs should also not be fed frozen food because, while a few peas and beans are probably as harmless as feeding them hard kibble, the scenario of new Corgi owners suddenly deciding that a quick fix meal for their Corgi is something straight out of the freezer, because they read on Go Corgi that giving Corgis frozen food is ok, concerns me.

I suppose I come from the opposite end of the scale. When Taylor was a pup, his breakfast always consisted of cereal and warmed (non-cow's) milk. I would never give him cold milk straight out of the fridge. Leading Corgi breeders in NZ (and I know this because I have contacted them all at one stage or another) all are fussy with the food they give to Corgis - especially as pups and they are another reason why I have always given my last two Corgis room temperature solid food because that is what the majority of them recommend. So meat, rice etc straight from the fridge, gets 20-30 seconds in the microwave or at least 20 minutes sitting on the bench in the kitchen. Commonsense tells me that room temperature food is more tasty than food straight out of a fridge. Then you'll say, but dogs don't have the same taste 'buds' as humans. To a large degree they do. Dogs and humans have thousands of similar genes - more similar to humans are dogs than almost any other animal. Dogs just adore most food that humans eat. And what are the worse food for humans.......? Yes, for dogs too.

[corgimom]

Is there any other Large Breed food that one would recommend besides Innova? Just asking for other maybe curious members

[Fluffypants]

Originally Posted by Michael Romanos

Linda - I don't think you always see the irony in what I sometimes say.

I think that may be true for a lot of us, unfortunately. If I may make a suggestion . . . more frequent use of emoticons may help. I find that a or a or even a goes a long way toward softening what may be perceived as a harsh comment by others. It may seem silly, but it is exactly that silliness which may prevent a comment from being taken in the wrong way. (IMHO )

[corgimom]

Jessica,

I love your way with words and emotions They sure are helpful,
aren't they.

Now...I will go back to the orignal reason why this thread was posted.

Is there any other large breed dog foods out there that would be good for our
Corgis? Innova was mentioned...but others that may be good?

thanks

[glencorgi]

or that message the announcer says real fast at the end of the commercials)

As it seems the intelligence and/or common sense of some of the list members and/or new corgi owners is being called into question and there is alarm that one of them might decide to empty a bag of frozen green beans (or other fruits and vegetables) into their corgi's bowl and call it dinner - here's the warning: DON'T DO IT! (Hope that message is strong enough.) That's not what is being discussed in this thread.

Generally the use of adding vegetables to a corgi's diet comes on the heels of said corgi needing to drop pounds which was incidentally the situation in the initial post in this thread. To answer the original question asked, yes corgis can be fed large breed dog foods without any adverse effects. Any premium line that one likes and their dogs do well on would be a good choice.

Where the (fresh raw, canned, frozen, or cooked - all FINE) vegetables come in is that they make nutritious, low calorie fillers so those brown eyes don't give the human that - "Is that all there is? You're starving me!" look and they are added to the kibble in the food bowl. In a weight loss regime, the amount of kibble is cut back, sometimes significantly. The vegetables do a couple of tricks - corgi thinks they are getting more food than they really are and humans aren't guilt tripped because let me tell you - 1/4 a cup of kibble split into two servings doesn't look like all that much food. (This was with an extremely obese corgi.) Another trick is to use a smaller bowl.

Even if one's corgi doesn't need to loose weight, there is nothing wrong with adding a sprinkling of green beans or vegetable blends or fruits to their corgi's meal. IF using canned vegetables though, look for no-salt versions or pour off the liquid and rinse well with water to lower salt content. Raw fruits or vegetables can even be used as treats during the day - broccoli or cauliflower florets, squash slices, bits of raw sweet potato, apple slices, a bit of banana - all make for wonderful "cookies." Plus they are good for the corgis.

The main taboo foods are onions, chocolate, grapes/and or raisins - all of which can be toxic to dogs.

So one more time - no one should open a bag of frozen vegetables, pour it into their corgi's bowl and call it dinner. If one wishes to serve them in addition to their corgi's regular meal be it kibble, kibble & wet food, or canned food only or cooked meal (and I don't mean a plate of whatever the humans are having) then there is nothing wrong with that. I do hope this eases the anxiety of parties who were conerned.

Debbie

[Jhemphill]

Thank you Debbie,

The frozen veggies are a treat for Maxi, and used as you said mostly for the human (Kevin my husband) to not feel as if Maxi is not getting enough food. I would never feed anyone human or animal just frozen food. Maxi also get as treats raw veggies and fruit, he especially likes baby carrots and apples. Another questions are prunes or plums bad for dogs? I have not fed any to Maxi just wondering.

Jodi

[glencorgi]

Plums - no problem, prunes? well aside from the obvious consequences , just watch the pits - same as you would with peach pits or apple seeds.

Debbie