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08-19-2006, 08:48 AM

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Cody jumps up on the sofa also and can also jump up on the beds, I don't like the bed thing - I just think it is too high and I always help him down. maybe I am just worrying, but I don't know if that could hurt his back.

Linda, I have never let Monty or Dylan jump on the bed or the furniture. The reason of course is that what comes up must down. It is the down that shocks their joints.

That is one reason that the dogs are not allowed to participate in organized jumping activites such as agility until they are at least 18 mo old. and they have developed stronger joints.

I have learned more that I wanted to know about about leg joints in dogs going through ACL surgery with Dylan. (Who has had a relapse this wk).

Monty as you know now has spinal problems and can no longer walk, hardly at all but must drag herself like a little seal.

Now neither of these things that have happened to my corgis over time have been I feel because of jumping. Thank DOG that I did NOT encourge them to do anything that I would now feel caused their sad conditions.

So if you feel that you do not want your dog to jump on the furniture Linda, do not feel bad about it. We each have our own dogs and I know try and do the best for them. There are many corgis that do jumping sports (mine have) and those are under optimum controlled situations, giving the dogs the best advantage not to get hurt.

Chips Mom, sorry about being a bit off topic in your thread, I felt a need to support Linda in light of her being riduculed for making her own personal choices for Cody, and acting on the side of caution.

If people choose to let their corgis jump on their furniture that is up to them, if they choose not to let them, that is up to them. No one should be insulted or spoken to sideways about it. Period. All of the above of course is MHO.


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08-19-2006, 09:12 AM

Never apologize for a curve in threads that I initiate. I never consider anything to be off topic. I sometimes ramble on about Digger in different threads but I think this site is helping me to heal.

Anyway - I believe that your dog is your dog and you know him or her like nobody else so you should decide on what you are comfortable with allowing your furbaby to do. I carry Chip to bed every night because he waits for me and he cannot jump on the bed - it is to high. If he by chance gets off the bed in the night, he will wake me up to lift him back up on the bed. Chip is my baby and I treat him as such! A long time ago, I bought a cushioned chest and placed it at the foot of my bed to help Digger get on and off the bed. It now works well for Chip to get off the bed. He will jump down - but it is short steps. Now after reading Barbara's post, I am concerned with Chip the yoyo! Maybe I should consider getting him the three step thing for the side door so he can look out and not jump. I am very protective of his back as I was with Digger and Thank God, Dig never had a back problem. When I lift Chip up, it is always a scoop and never by the front part only. My family also picks him up this way as again they were taught when we had Digger. Now I am way off topic. Thanks Barbara for helping me remember good things about Dig.


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08-19-2006, 09:24 AM

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Linda - you are over anxious. and over protective.


Corgis are tough cookeis - they are not delicate toy dogs. Treat them with kids gloves and they won't develop to their full potential.

Michael, I think your first sentance is oppinionated, unkind & unnecessary.


Your second sentance is your oppinion and your are entitled to it. But you announced it to belittle a GoCorgi member, and you are not entitled to do that.


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08-19-2006, 10:55 AM

I agree with CorgiMum. The comment was absolutely unnecessary and belittling. If Linda does not want her dog to jump on/off the furniture because of stress to his joints, that is her right as his owner to do so. We should never critisize someone for loving and worrying about their dog. I highly doubt that preventing her dog from jumping from heights will stop him from "developing his full potential."
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08-19-2006, 11:05 AM

I do the same as Linda as much as I possibly can. There have been instances where Checkers has jumped from the bed before I could lift him off and I have honestly thought of revoking his bed privledges because of it. It is absolutely okay to take precautions.... we know our precious pups are more prone to back trouble than other breeds. Why in the world wouldn't you be that much more careful?! My bed is also pretty high and it would concern me greatly to see Checkers jumping from such a height all the time. Bravo to you Linda for watching out for your little one!

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08-19-2006, 05:21 PM

Hey all:

I agree with the others who stated that Michael's comments were unecessary. Sure, give advice if you have it to give. I would caution however, that telling someone that they are over protective...over anxious about their own dog(s) is a little much. We all love our dogs like our own children... many members on this site have never owned Corgi's and know nothing about the breed. If you ask me, a little overprotection is FAR better than raising a pup (who is dominant by nature as a corgi) to be an agressive adult dog. I would rather see someone post a question or concern to gain knowledge or get ideas than to keep making the same mistakes with a Corgi puppy. For anyone to feel belittled by just posting a concern I FEEL is completely UNACCEPTABLE. Just to give a little support to the question. My vet has treated a good deal of Corgi's with back problems and is in fact a Corgi owner herself. She recomended that I get a set of doggy steps if we want Rhys on the bed with us. She also went on to say that we should pick him up with 2 hands so his hind end is supported.

I would say that if you know so much about Corgi's Mr. Romanos, then perhaps you should become a vet yourself. I am sure the breed would benefit from your expertise...perhaps a little tact education in dealing with humans might be in order though.


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08-19-2006, 06:18 PM

Off Topic but I did buy the stairs for our older cat and the corgi's to get on the bed and have been very pleased.
My mother has a dachsund that now has back problems from jumping off a bed, so yes watch those little backs guys.


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08-20-2006, 10:44 AM

I guess there are some that have the same concerns as I do regarding Corgis and their backs. I haven't had a pup in 20 years since my last Pem was an adult rescue dog, so I tend to have lots of questions regarding the health of Corgi pups, much like a new mom.

Cody will choose to take a toy off the floor and then automatically jump up on the bed. His most favorite thing to do is to take a small ball, jump up on the sofa, knock it off with his nose and then jump off to retrieve it and back up on the sofa and repeat, repeat.

Thanks Deb, for your input on their growth plates.
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08-20-2006, 11:01 AM

One thing some corgi owners have done is take their mattresses off the frame and put them on the floor. Keeping the door blocked w/a baby gate or the door closed can help too.

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08-20-2006, 11:21 AM

We keep a baby gate, to keep them from going upstairs.

Too funny when hubby comes down the stairs and trys to step over it and finds himself tripping and falling......he he he

Ohhhh dont worry he hurts nothing but his pride....... LOL


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08-20-2006, 12:51 PM

Cindy,

Even better yet is trying to carry a full laundry basket over that baby gate!

We use a baby gate going up to the stairs also - and depending what we are doing, some days, it is to the side. Our computer is upstairs in a spare bedroom, so when I am up here on Go Corgi and Cody wants to be with me, I close all the doors to the bedrooms so he cannot jump on the beds; and of course, I have a little toy box in this room so he can occupy himself a bit also while I am busy typing.
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His most favorite thing to do is to take a small ball, jump up on the sofa, knock it off with his nose and then jump off to retrieve it and back up on the sofa and repeat, repeat.
ROFL... you just described one of Checkers all time favorite games as well!

He also figured out that if mommy has a clean basket of clothes she is folding, a slobbery dropped ball in the basket will be thrown quickly. *sigh* Even my clean clothes aren't clean anymore!

The third thing he has decided he loves to do is kick the ball under a couch/chair/playpen and spend thirty minutes pretending to dig it out. He can normally get it too... just prefers to play at it for a while first! This is only annoying if you are sitting in the chair... or if you were playing fetch with him and he decides to play his version of the game instead of bringing the ball back to you. Normally by that point though it is his way of telling me he is done with fetch.
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08-20-2006, 02:41 PM

Cody is forever stuffing his balls under recliners and I am always retrieving them and he also digs for them while whining at the same time

One of the things he also likes to do the most is to push a ball under a hutch I have that is in my family room, but right next to our hall.

I have talked about this before, but quite a bit ago. If I throw the ball down the hall, he will get it and come running back and will line it up with what I call the "mouse holes" that the hutch has on each side at the bottom.

He will then proceed with pushing the ball through the hole with his nose and it usually will come out through the hole on the other side, then he runs to the other side to get it. I would say that 6 to 7 times out of 10 he is able to do this. sometimes, if he doesn't line it up quite right and the ball slips, he will instantly grab it before I do and then circle around back to the hole and line it up again. If the ball gets stuck under the hutch, he sticks half his body under there trying to get it.

I think I need to get this on video

I just think this is quite talented - he must be wishing he could golf.

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