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corgimom · 07:24 PM

Dewey,

In all honesty, If it were me. and I saw that female dog at a home in my town, I would be calling the Humane Society first thing tomorrow. I think there is something suspicious going on at that breeders place and heaven only knows if there are other dogs there in the same condition

The fact that Aaron knows this person who treats a dog as such, and looks the other way says a lot about his character to me. I wonder what he is "getting out of recommending her to others"? I don't believe for one moment that any vet was in agreement with that. Who is in that poor dogs "court" looking out for her?, no one, how sad is that.

If I knew where that breeder lived, I would be calling their local humane society(tomorrow) all the way from Wisconsin, because it is obvious that the dog is underfed. Why doesn't your friend do the right thing - sorry, but that is just my two cents and the picture of that dog just bothers me

Chip's Mom · 10-22-2006, 07:31 PM

I agree with Linda. People need to speak out in defense of these puppy mill puppies. The only thing is in some states it is hard to get them closed down or prosecuted. I would say that is where alot of these puppy stores get the pups from. That is like that 8 month old male puppy that has been in a cage all of his life. He weighs a whole 12 lbs and now with plenty of food and water - he only eats a little at night when knowone is watching. My heart goes out to these animals. If enough complaints are issued, then someone will have to take notice. Also, in most states if a complaint is filed, they have to follow up on the complaint.

corgimom · 10-22-2006, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Chip's Mom

I agree with Linda. People need to speak out in defense of these puppy mill puppies. The only thing is in some states it is hard to get them closed down or prosecuted. I would say that is where alot of these puppy stores get the pups from. That is like that 8 month old male puppy that has been in a cage all of his life. He weighs a whole 12 lbs and now with plenty of food and water - he only eats a little at night when knowone is watching. My heart goes out to these animals. If enough complaints are issued, then someone will have to take notice. Also, in most states if a complaint is filed, they have to follow up on the complaint.

It is quite sad and for someone to know this and see this and turn their back is just really wrong - Who knows what is going on at that place;is it even an actual puppy mill?, at least the Humane society could check it out - that is not right for that dog to look like that.

Michael Romanos · 10-23-2006, 02:47 AM

Cesar Milan has a very good check list out for people who are considering to get a dog. It is not only the purchase price of the dog one has to have on hand - it is all the subsequent costs which very quickly add up to more than the purchase price. We have members on Go Corgi who have spent thousands of dollars within a year or two since they brought their Corgi puppies home at seven weeks old or so.

So to Dewey, I say: don't just save up for the $800- $1000 and think that the buck stops there.

corgimom · 10-23-2006, 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael Romanos

Cesar Milan has a very good check list out for people who are considering to get a dog. It is not only the purchase price of the dog one has to have on hand - it is all the subsequent costs which very quickly add up to more than the purchase price. We have members on Go Corgi who have spent thousands of dollars within a year or two since they brought their Corgi puppies home at seven weeks old or so.

So to Dewey, I say: don't just save up for the $800- $1000 and think that the buck stops there.

Michael,

I certainly have to agree with you here. The intial cost of the pup is just the "starting point" and everything else, food, toys, regular vet bills and unexpected emergency vet bills are the additional costs that one must prepare and plan for. Please remember that all cute puppies become seniors one day. They come down with illnesses and other ailments just like us humans do, that will require you to still be there for them time wise and financially. - Keep that in mind please.

Dillydoodle · 10-23-2006, 05:18 AM

Wow, I agree with Linda that someone should really be calling the Humane society becuase that mother dog looks horrible, ribs are countable, that is a disgrace. Additionally, have you ever wondered about the fact that maybe the puppies are all "runts" because the mom has not been fed properly and therefore all the puppies are malnourished and deficient because of it?

Michael, I do agree that it is not just about saving up enough to buy the dog- but you must save enough to care for the dog as well, and yes vet bills mount up quickly, and ther is no worse feeling than NOT having enough money to pay for the care of your best friend. THe second thing is that by trying to get a "cheap" dog and focusing on that, often people get a much lower quality dog - and the cost maybe only $300 initially and you smile and think "what a bargain" until a short time later when you find you have either a poorly bred sickly puppy that needs frequent trips to the vet ( $$$) or bad temperment dog ( which is no bargain), or one with genetic problems that either shorten the life or your dog, cost a lot of money in medications and vet visits to give them a still lesser quality of life becuase of their disease. I feel like you get what you pay for, and paying a higher price doesnt guarantee no problems just makes it less likely...

Emilie

Fluffypants · 10-23-2006, 02:51 PM

I agree. Better to save up and get a better quality pup than run the risk of much higher costs (monetary & emotional) down the run. Nothing as a guarantee, but a little peace of mind is quite valuable. Also, if something does go wrong with a puppy from a reputable breeder, you won't feel alone. That's one of the great things about getting your puppy from a good breeder - they will be there to support and advise you for the life of the dog.

Dewey - I'm so glad that you were able to get out of that bad deal before you spent more money and got more attached. You poor thing. But it looks like you have found a good breeder now. You'd be surprised how fast you can save money for a corgi. And by the time you are ready, that breeder may have a pup for you. Definitely get on the waiting list. You never know when a fluffy or an undescended testicle will give you the corgi of your dreams! (just ask some of us here!)

PS - I feel that, given my recent "reputation" . . . I must advise you also to save up for toys and fancy collars and other doggie accessories!! I never realized what a nut I would be about buying stuff for my dog until I got one.

tandemgal · 10-23-2006, 03:10 PM

A friend of mine from work several years ago bought a schnauzer puppy. She didn't realize the lady she bought from was running a puppy mill. Sherry is very very tender hearted and naive. And even though she knew that the puppy didn't seem right she took her anyway. The "breeder" was pushy and implied several times if Sherry wasn't interested she was taking it to a pet shop or worse! She did not get to see the mother dog either.

Sherry has had nothing but heart ache with this dog. Vet bills, temperament and the dog has psychological problems... not to mention after it grew out of puppyhood it looks nothing like the standard for miniature schnauzers.

Moral to the story is sometimes no matter how bad you feel you need to walk away.

PS the Puppy Mill woman was turned in by several people including Sherry - she just moved and changed the name of her Mill and beat the system. Several of her puppys died within a few weeks of being placed and of course there was no refund or returned call

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