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With Taylor, discipline doesn't much come into it. The last time Taylor talked too much he was picked up gracefully and placed in the bathroom and kept confined in there for 10 minutes. Upon retrieving him from 'prison' he was given a titbit, told he was a good boy and life went on per normal. That might have been two years ago.
But the story of course is that Corgis are extra sensitive dogs and so any discipline needs to be carefully conducted - no shouting/screaming, NO HITTING anywhere with anything. Any telling off needs to be within five seconds of the misdemeanour occuring otherwise it is too late and your Corgi's forgotten it and so must you. So you say NO or whatever and when he'she complies: reward and praise. There is definitely no raising of a baseball bat or a rolled up newspaper or a slipper or a hand in this lot. Last edited by Michael Romanos; 11-17-2006 at 01:54 AM. |
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Artos: It must be cultural because if a child was hit with a cane in one of our schools, there would be the possibility of charges being filed. I have never hit Chip either - he doesn't get scolded really either. So far no need other than to tell him no biting or stop whatever he is up to which isn't often.
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I agree with Bonnie, teachers are not allowed to use objects to discipline children in the schools, much less say something to them that might offend them.
And I will have to correct the word that I used previously, I don't really scold Cody, just tell him to "stop" whatever he may be doing, which is really not very often other than the occasional poking his head into the cats litter box to find a treat and I don't believe in swatting a dog to discipline them.
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I agree with everyone here on the issue of hitting dogs with anything. I have a rolled up newspaper that I whack on my hand or a piece of furniture in extreme situations to get attention - it's called the tapper. If Rupe is barking or really going nuts I just have to ask him if I need to get the tapper and he settles down right away. It's the same idea of using a can with pennies or something in it to make a startling noise.
Artos, I understand that we have cultural differences, but I'd be very concerned about using an article such as a slipper. If someone were to be putting on their slippers or sandals your dogs could find that very threatening and possibly become aggressive. Why don't you try a noise maker of some kind to get their attention and then verbally give them a "no" or "stop it" command?
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Last night, Chip and Maybelle were wrestling rather noisily and it was time for them to settle down so I clapped my hands together and said stop and that was the end of that for the night. Chip climbed up on his throne (He reigns from on top of his crate MGM - let me know if you find a crown for his Highness) and Maybelle settled comfortably on the pillow on the floor.
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When Trax barks, he BARKS. Rhythmically like a machine gun RAT-TAT-TAT fortissimo. We cant even outshout him. He is not going to hear anything beyond his own voice. The bare removal of a slipper from my foot, the hitting of the slipper on the floor...or in cases of emergency (eg where he is trying to be aggressive to another dog)....a flying slipper (not aimed at him but aimed near him)...is enough to get his attention (at least for a short while). Then he looks at you with his quizzical, " You said something, Mum?" I am careful with Barn because unlike Trax, he is a soft dog (Trax is a 'hard' dog in terms of character). He can get carried away with his play biting and barking..(more the first than the second)..and he doesnt know when to stop. When he really bites and then returns to bite again with that wicked gleam in his cheeky eye....I have to get his attention. Like Trax, verbal correction doesnt work. I shout "Hoy!!" and wave the slipper at him/ hit slipper on the floor....and he sobers down immediately. Again, in dangerous situations- like when he tries to growl and irritate Marky the GSD sized mutt in our house (forgetting that Marky can have him for dessert)....the thrown slipper is the only way of getting his attention. Again- the slipper hits the floor, not the dog. Only in extreme cases would I give them a physical whack. Marky got that one day when he misbehaved..but that was with rolled up newspaper (several times on the floor, then - when that didnt work- finally- on his behind). We have had GSDs, two Great Danes, a Short haired German Pointer, a Golden Retriever, a Pom and a few dachshunds in our home for the past 50 years....I have found that the most sensitive of the lot were (surprisingly) the Golden Retriever and the Great Dane. They have to be handled with much gentleness. Corgis proved to be the least sensitive (they are very gung ho and less responsive to correction) and more 'macho' (be they male or female) of the lot. The males get back to you physically (ie 'revenge attacks'). The females have mind games- they plot to sabotage you when you least expect them to (like peeing on your bed). Maybe thats why I like them. They are quite bossy and have an 'attitude'. Last edited by Artos; 11-16-2006 at 09:16 AM. |
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I see the rolled up newspaper whacked on the hand no worse than a shoe or slipper whacked on a floor...and there ARE situations where a loud whack on the floor is enough to stop a bad behavior where a vocal command often doesnt. I have a very well behaved corgi who rarely needs a reprimand, however, it HAS hapend where he requires more than me just saying " no" or "bad dog". If he has on his collar and leash, i give a firm leash correction.... if he has no collar or leash, then a rolled up mazazine smacked on my hand hard is all it takes to stop him.
There are many levels of dog training, that some people might find too rough...how many trainers used E-collars? how many people have invisible fences...same thing as an e-collar... they still get a shock for crossing the boundry. People use choke chains, and others find them cruel.Just different tolerance levels. As long as the dog is not being hit with it, i see no trouble with showing him the slipper or a shoe or a newpaper or whatever as a visual or auditory warning to cut it out. Emilie. Last edited by Dillydoodle; 11-16-2006 at 09:39 AM. |
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Jackie rarely gets angry with us. She does disagree with us often, though, and gives us a good "talking to". Not barking, just talking back (GRAWAAARRAAROOO). On the rare occasions that she is involved in something naughty and not listening, we clap our hands together loudly to get her attention and then tell her to stop. It works pretty well for us.
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That is usually how Dillon is. Housebreaking him was a breeze. All I had to do the first time i saw him start to squat in the house was yell a stren NO and he not only didnt pee, but his little ears would go back and he would give you the innocent big doe eye look. I would pick him up, put him outside and he would go and i would make such a big deal that he wanted to go outside. me squealing and being so happy that he peed outside made him so happy and me saying NO in a booming firm voice was something he wanted to avoid. thus the fact he had about 6 accidents the whole time he was being housebroken.
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I get dramatic sighing & whining from Buta whenever she feels that I am giving my other dogs attention. She is very possesive towards me but she would never ignore me
She would push or herd my other dogs away from me & force herself under my arms LOL
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Discipling children has nothing to do with dogs. Dog are not humans. I believe there will be a turnaround in societies that presently ban or frown on smacking children in schools by teachers and at home by parents. But dogs are a different kettle, especially sensitive breeds and the breeds that can harbour aggression.
The act of raising an object to a dog, and having an object pound onto the floor where the dog is stationed, is just as bad as the object making contact with the dog.- particularly so with regard to a Corgi's sensitivities. If I did to Taylor what Artos and Dillydoodle do to their Corgis, he would be half the dog he is. |
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Michael, the reason kids were brought up was because of this post. Even though disciplining children is different than dogs, both can have consequences here in regards to one being arrested for their actions. You can't go around hitting your kid because you can be arrested for that. And just the other day a man here was arrested for beating a dog(he was watching for someone else) with a stick, and threatening his roommate for trying to intervene, because the dog chewed up some of his carpet. |
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