House Training Issue

[Dillydoodle]

ohhh i have never heard of that product before..is it only good on fresh urine or can it be used for old stains? Do they sell that here in the US? where did you get yours?
Emilie

[Jespah]

It can be used on stains that are decades old. It is a Canadian product, but when I Googled it, there were places you could buy it in the States. I've never seen it in a store, I've only ordered it online from a place I get most of my stuff from.

To figure out how much you need, they say to use as much of the liquid as the animal would have peed on the spot - so not too much and not too little! Depends on the pet. I tend to use more than I think I need, just to be sure.

The brand is Urine-Erase try this site (this is a well known store, so should be okay from spyware):

http://www.vetamerica.com/index.asp?...ROD&ProdID=492

[CorgiMum]

Debbie, I've been using Petzyme, a Petsmart product for more than 12 years and it has always worked to me. Not the same bottle of course. I have never had a pup go back and urinate (or thow up) in that spot.

I still keep some on hand for when a visitng dogs uses other spots than the designated area that my dogs use. I've sprayed it on all types of foors and carpets and never had a problem with it staining.

I soak the carpet spot, wait a few mnutes, & then blot with a paper towel until it's only damp. I keep watching, and when a dog goes by the area to sniff I give a big NO. Always worked for us. Good luck.


http://www.petsmart.com/global/produ...zine&N=2025632

[CorgiMum]

About Jemma not wanting to pee when she should.

I have asimilar problem with Dylan every fall when our rains start. He will pee ok, but won't poop after dinner as he usually does. Or his last time out at 11pm. I found that the kennel helped us with that. If he doesn't go, I don't make a fuss or say anything. I just put him into his kennel, put the door on and close it. (doors are normally off) I wait a while, when I think that there is a good chance he will go, I already know that he needs too, just won't.

Then I get mean. I play a game with Monty, we have great loud fun, & treats too of course. Sibling rivalry can be a great tool.

A few minutes later I take him out again. If he goes, we play a game, all three of us and they both get treats. If he doesn't, then I make the decision to either kennel him for a bit again, or let it go. But if I do, let it go, no games or treats.

This dosen't always work, but I can't see that it hurts any either.

Are you sure that Jemma can hold it for that long a time? Have you tried an x-pen & pee pads?

[MissGambler'sMommy]

As for the litterbox training, I do have to keep the crate door closed because of the cat. It would be nice for Miss Gambler to have access whenever she wants, but you are right, with cats, you do have to work around that.

Jespah(and others), if you ever come across a cleaner that can go into a steam cleaner, please let me know. I have a steam cleaner, and I would love to find a pet friendly cleaner, instead of just the commercial ones that don't really do anything for pet odors.

[MissGambler'sMommy]

One more thing, the pads are great, really absorbant, but there is a really wide pad, and I have only found it at Wal-Mart, it's REALLY big, and perfect for the long Corgi. I keep them in Miss Gambler's car bed under the blankets, in case of an accident, and I love the big one that covers the entire car bed.

[CorgiMum]

Originally Posted by MissGambler'sMommy

Jespah(and others), if you ever come across a cleaner that can go into a steam cleaner, please let me know. I have a steam cleaner, and I would love to find a pet friendly cleaner, instead of just the commercial ones that don't really do anything for pet odors.

I noted on the Petsmart site that the Petzyme for cats listed information that it can be used in a cleaning machine. Guess you would have to check on the bottle if the same was true for the dog product. Or you could call their 1-800 number.

http://www.petsmart.com/global/produ...34374302033673

[MissGambler'sMommy]

Thanks CorgiMum, I'm going to have to hit the pet stores when I get home with Mojo(for Mojo), so I'll check it out. And I hope that you and yours have a wonderful holiday, I think about your babies quite often.

[disraeli]

Deb - I feel your pain. Andy has not quite gotten the hang of going potty outside yet. I have the biggest problem with pooping - she will go to the door, but she will not bark or scratch...and she won't wait for me to notice her!
We usually take frequent potty breaks and she always pees when she gets the chance, but the pooping is beginning to bug me.

[Dillydoodle]

Tana,
You know what i did when Dillon was a puppy was take a small bell and place it on a string and hang it on the door where he goes out to his pen. When he has to go potty, he just rings his bell. It is quite easy to train- yes there are a few times when he will ring his bell mostly to go out and sit on the deck rather than to pee, but how i broke him of that, was he rings, i let him out and send him all the way down off the deck into his penned in pee area. Then i keep telling him to pee. He will pee eventually, maybe not much but something, then i have him come back up on the deck where he can hang out. If he wont pee, back inside he goes. Training him initially was easy, just every time you are going to let him out ( and i started when he was a puppy so it was every single hour like clockwork, then every two, three, etc) i would sit him at the door and say " you want to go OUT?" then I would hit the bell myself and open the door. I then graduated to having him hit the bell with any part of his body he chose- paw or nose..and then the door would open. In the begining i would open that door anytime he rang - this broke him of playing with it fast, becuase the first sound i heard i would run over and open the door and push him out if he didnt want to go. He learned fast and was housebroken in no time. This lets them tell you when they have to go rather than having them just sit at a door and hope someone comes in time.
Emilie

[Jespah]

First thanks Barbara for the info on the Petzyme, I will check it out. Anything that will work on cat pee will work on dog's.

MGM - any of these enzyme cleaners are to be used undiluted and usally left on the area to dry - so other than using your steam cleaner as a method of saturating the area evenly, you don't need them for everyday carpet cleaning. You could use them with water I suppose and then they would just freshen the carpet up. You can pretty much use any cleaner that doesn't foam up in one of those cleaners.

Tana - I think it's harder for folks like us who have got a dog at an older age and has had a different lifestye and routine. I think we just need patience and consistency. I find that the poop is easier to schedule as dogs have such efficient digestive systems. Something goes in - somethings gotta come out. Mine go within half an hour of eating - and if they are very excited.

I got home late last night, due to a subway problem, and when I took the dogs out Jemma immediately peed. I checked the apartment and she had not gone anywhere. That meant the little devil held it from 5:45 AM to 5:10 PM - almost 12 hours!!!! I'd pay big bucks for that kind of bladder!!!

[Chip's Mom]

When we went to Charlotte to pick my daughter up from the airport. It was raining and snowing. We stopped several times for Chip to potty but he wouldn't go. He held it for 12 hours and then when he couldn't hold it any longer, he started whining and carrying on so we had to make a real quick stop for him to pee his gallon. 12 hours is such a long time for those little bladders and I was worried about him.

[mochamix79]

Sorry to hear about the peeps problem. Huw too is sometimes left in the penned kitchen for 8 hours +. He was orginially trained to use wood shavings to pee and poop in, and we have used this technique for really long periods of time. After he gets neutered, we plan on weening him off of the box, unless we are going to be gone for more than 6 hours. There have been a number of days that we'll get home and there will not be any poops in the box and one big pee. Then he goes right outside and does both businesses. I'm not an expert by any means, and heck, I'm probably teaching my dog bad habits. But we have not had any accidents in the house for almost 3 maybe 4 weeks. Just being gone that long, she may need the comfort of knowing she has something to go on.

As for clean up stuff, I highly recommend Kids n Pets. We get ours at WalMart, but Amazon.com carries it. I have to say, this stuff is AMAZING. Old stains, new stains, laundry, EVERYTHING. It's awesome.

[MissGambler'sMommy]

Mochmix: I used the wood shavings(dog litter) once, and I hated it, the smell was unbearable, and the book that I read on litterbox training said that cat litter could also be used so I tried it and have had no problem whatsoever. You're right about the long periods of time, it is nice to know that they have an option of just going instead of holding it, that has to hurt them. Give the cat litter a try, clean-up is even easier and less messy also. (And it smells better, lol.) It's nice to run into someone else who resulted to this method. I've remarked in other posts just how bad Miss Gambler was when I was training her. She litterally would destroy every method, pads, paper, etc.. but when I put that box in her crate, she was like, "What took you so long?" She did not even have to be trained to use it, it just came natural, and her crate, and her highness, stay spotless.