Corgi Rescue Group in Ohio Closing

[Peggy]

Originally Posted by nrhareiner

This person could be both. Alot of breeders also run small rescue operations too. I know a freind of mine who breeds chapion corgis also takes in rescues at times and finds them new homes. I see nothing wrong with this. Perhaps this person can no longer do all the work involved with the rescue and had to make a desition perhaps she is getting out of every thing. Who know. Thing is she is trying to find good homes for the dogs.[

Yes, a reputable breeder can do both. I do.

However this is NOT a reputable breeder. There are no champions, no show pictures. They're not show quality dogs. They are her own dogs, dogs she bred, and IMO that is NOT a rescue dog. The ones she is selling are hers of her breeding.

And I understand she's asking $1,200 for at least one of them?

I've heard stories like this before. Breeder going out of business. They sell off their current stock and then buy younger dogs and start breeding again, or go into a new breed.

Sorry too many red flags to make me suspicous of her. If she puts the dogs in the shelter then legitimate rescue groups can step in. Util then, IMO, she's on her own, and I do not recommend anyone bail her out.

Peggy

[nrhareiner]

Yes I saw she was asking $1200 for one of her stud dogs. Thing is that dog should have been cut a long time ago. He is not show breed quality from what I can see from the pictures.

My red flag that I was seeing a lot in her web site is that a lot of the dogs have alergies and it seems to be in every generation. Also most of her pups and older dogs the ears where not up as they should have been.

Heidi

[glencorgi]

Originally Posted by nrhareiner

I have no doubt that is what I said you can put on info onto a serch eng. on the net and get info. Thing is you need to make sure it is the correct info.

People's words can speak for themselves, the subject of this thread is a perfect example of that. I don't fall for the "misunderstood" line myself.

Debbie

[Peggy]

Originally Posted by nrhareiner

Yes I saw she was asking $1200 for one of her stud dogs. Thing is that dog should have been cut a long time ago. He is not show breed quality from what I can see from the pictures.

She's not breeding for show dogs. She's only breeding to produce puppies to sell. Only to make money. She doesn't care what they look like, probably has no clue about the standard. Just wants puppies.

My red flag that I was seeing a lot in her web site is that a lot of the dogs have alergies and it seems to be in every generation.

Which says volumes about her ethics. If you are seeing problems like that then you find out why and stop breeding that line. Like I said, she's not a reputable breeder.

Peggy

[nrhareiner]

I do not believe I ever said she was. I only stated that a breeder can also be a rescue. Which seemed from the first few post that people where downing her for doing both. I know a lot of people who rescue do not believe you can do both. I do not believe that is true. I believe you can and should.

Heidi

[Dillydoodle]

I think that the point being made was not that a breeder can't rescue also, it is that THIS particular breeder is misusing the title "rescue" and is CLEARLY not a responsible/ reputable breeder nor any kind of rescue organization.
Emilie

[Peggy]

Originally Posted by Dillydoodle

I think that the point being made was not that a breeder can't rescue also, it is that THIS particular breeder is misusing the title "rescue" and is CLEARLY not a responsible/ reputable breeder nor any kind of rescue organization.

Exactly!

Peggy

[manymuddypaws]

Originally Posted by glencorgi

The problem I see in rescue today is there are too few actual breed people involved and far too many chasing warm fuzzies, jumping on the cause du jour and/or animal rights activists with far too little breed knowledge, dog savvy or animal husbandry fundamentals and lacking in old fashioned common sense. Because I just looooooove, loooooooove these doggies doesn't cut it.

Rescues are just like breeders, you want to make sure you are dealing with someone knowledgeable, experienced and reputable.

Debbie

I agree 100% with Debbie- I belong to a rescue group in my area- 4 years ago when I first started there were far too many of those "I just loooove doggies" involved- we were sinking hundreds of dollars into dogs that were not adoptable. As cold as that sounds it is a fact of rescue- people generally don't want dogs that are 12 years old and on three legs. They don't want the dog that jumps through glass windows, and chews through drywall when left alone, they don't want the dog who has killed cats and nipped at children. Far to many rescue people are too soft. You can't save them all. Unfortunately that is just the way it goes. Even now- after we have weeded out the "collectors" and "do-gooders" it is still a problem sometimes to resist the urge to try to save just this one. It is people like the above mentioned lady, and people who just have to have a litter because their dog is just so cute, and the people who won't take responsibility and spay/neuter that there are too many to save.....

-amanda

[glencorgi]

Originally Posted by manymuddypaws

It is people like the above mentioned lady, and people who just have to have a litter because their dog is just so cute, and the people who won't take responsibility and spay/neuter that there are too many to save.....

And in addition to all the above and to a degree even a larger problem is owner retention and responsibility. Just another piece of the puzzle.

Debbie