Ok, I've had about enough....

[gemjunkie]

I'll appologize right up front, I HAVE GOT to rant for a minute, maybe even two!

I've been asking questions, granted I am somewhat new at this 'pure bred' dog thing but why is it I keep running into attitude and road blocks?

Although I didn't get my dog from the most upstanding reputable breeder (back yard type, sorry) she did make sure to get her dog health tested, hips checked and such so she was in good shape and upon doing a registration search, my girl has some good genes in her with many health tested dogs in there.

What that tells me is, there were people that cared VERY much what went into what I got at some point in her life.....

I've been asking here what I need to do with my dog, to get her health certified. I will NOT just go on the 'word' of someone saying, of course my dogs are healthy, look at them, they are healthy.... It's NOT something new it's something responsible breeders are supposed to do to ensure the health of their dogs.

I keep running into road blocks. I PMed a couple people with no response I've asked and gotten road blocks. I am serious about my WHOLE dog owning experience here. I have started my dog AND myself on training to get her where she needs to be to be shown. She may NOT be the best dog but I will find that out ALL on my own. I also have my name on a few breeders lists for another dog.

NOW, I would just like to be headed in the right direction to find what tests I'd need to ensure than any resulting puppies IF I feel I could be responsible enough after showing her to breed her in a couple years, I would need to have. I know I'd have to have her CERFed, VwD.ed, hip Exrayed (later), elbows checked (later as well). At what age could I get her CERFed and VwD.ed? I know I have to wait till after 2yrs to get her hips and elbows evaluated.

I'm going to get even more annoying if I don't get answers people. I'm serious here..... (Dang I'm feeling onery today ) I don't think it's a crime if you dont' know, I just think it's rude to not tell if you do know.

[Jespah]

I'm not really sure why you think we are not giving you the information you are looking for. If it appears that way, then I think it's because the average member here doesn't know the information you are looking for and therefore has nothing to post for you.

Perhaps you could email Taflar, she is a breeder, and had been very knowledgeable here. I think GlenCorgi may have mentioned posting to another forum on the web that is mainly for people who show their Pembrokes - they probably have more info than some of us.

I hope that some of us have at least helped you with other things - I'd love to help you - but I can't - not that I won't.

Deb

[tandemgal]

Sorry, don't have a clue how to help you with this...

[Denaluvscorgis]

I'm also sorry that I don't have any of that type of info for you, I'm sure that someone will though. Good luck with that.

[Chip's Mom]

I wonder if a veterinarian would know what all tests you would need.

[dcole]

Pam,

Do either of these links help to answer your questions?

http://www.offa.org/index.html
http://www.vetgen.com

I did a quick Google search after reading your post and came up with those two. I am, of course, in no way an expert in this area - not even a novice, actually - just something I found. Also, I have access to several types of specialists through my normal veternarian's practice, including an orthopedic specialist. I'm sure that if I asked, I could find an opthomologist and a cardiac specialist, too. So maybe your local vet can help.

Oh, and don't let the fact that your baby came from a "back yard" breeder make you feel in any way inadequate. Mine did, too, and we couldn't love him anymore than we do. I know that sometimes when well-meaning (and they are) posters stress the importance of going through reputable breeders, it can make you feel like your dog is getting bagged on, but it's not the case.

Hope this helps.

-Debi

[CorgiMum]

I don't show, nor do I breed, but after checking with your own breeder about such requirements, the AKC I would think should have a list of the requirements that you are looking for.

I find that going to local dog shows provides me with a wealth of opportunites to ask breed specific questions of people in the know.

[Dillydoodle]

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[Peggy]

Originally Posted by gemjunkie

Although I didn't get my dog from the most upstanding reputable breeder (back yard type, sorry) she did make sure to get her dog health tested, hips checked and such so she was in good shape and upon doing a registration search, my girl has some good genes in her with many health tested dogs in there.

Ok, if she does health tests what makes you say she's a byb? Most byb's don't do the health tests so I'm very glad to hear she did.

I've been asking here what I need to do with my dog, to get her health certified.

Why do you want to have your dog "health certified"? Are you planning on breeding. If not then well, you don't really need the certifications.

We get the tests before breeding to help ensure we don't pass on genetic problems to the puppies. What we test for are hip dysplasia (OFA or PennHip Certifited), eyes (CERF or ACVO certified) and some will do von Wilderbrands testing. (DNA test). I also have my vet check my dogs before breeding and do vaginal cultures. (My vet is also a breeder (not of corgis) and an expert in reproductive issues.)

I have started my dog AND myself on training to get her where she needs to be to be shown. She may NOT be the best dog but I will find that out ALL on my own. I also have my name on a few breeders lists for another dog.

Well, as long as you're being honest with yourself. If you didn't get your dog from show lines chances are she will not do real well in the ring. Glad to hear that you're on some lists for another dog, I'm assuming a show prospect?

However, it's not really fair to be on several lists, that means breeders are counting on you and you may take a puppy from someone else. IMO, you should find a breeder with dogs you like and that is a person you feel comfortable with. One that will be wiling to guide and mentor you, and stick with that breeder.

At what age could I get her CERFed and VwD.ed? I know I have to wait till after 2yrs to get her hips and elbows evaluated.

The eyes can be checked and certified as early as 8 weeks of age. You have to have a ACVO vet do that, can't be your regular vet. And the DNA test for vWD can be done at any age since it's a DNA test. As for hips, yes, 2 years for OFA but PennHip can be done sooner.

I'm going to get even more annoying if I don't get answers people. I'm serious here..... (Dang I'm feeling onery today ) I don't think it's a crime if you dont' know, I just think it's rude to not tell if you do know.

I didn't see your previous requests. And getting annyoying is no way to get answers. It's better to assume that people didn't see your question and ask again. Maybe mention this is a second request for information. When I started reading this list, I didn't go back and read all the previous stuff.

When you get demanding or annoying people tend to just brush you off or ignore you.

Peggy

[Dillydoodle]

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[Chip's Mom]

I may be wrong because I am no expert but I think all male corgis (not sure about other breeds) at least have to have the DNA test for AKC registration purposes. Is this correct?

Do you mind if I forward the list of tests to someone that has asked me that question and I didn't have the answer?

[Dillydoodle]

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[Chip's Mom]

Emilie:

Google DNA testing on dogs AKC and there is an article on it. Hope this helps. The father should have a DNA number under his name on his papers. It is for profiling I think but I may be wrong as I am not an expert.

[Peggy]

Originally Posted by Chip's Mom

I may be wrong because I am no expert but I think all male corgis (not sure about other breeds) at least have to have the DNA test for AKC registration purposes. Is this correct?

First no dog has to have a DNA test for registration. After that Yes, and no. If the dog is a "frequently used sire" then yes. That means he's been used more than 6 times in one year and I think 10 times overall. That means he has to be DNA tested before future litters sired by him can be registered.

And the AKC rules, such as this one is the same for all breeds.

Do you mind if I forward the list of tests to someone that has asked me that question and I didn't have the answer?

I don't mind at all. Go right ahead.

Peggy

[Chip's Mom]

Thanks Peggy for clarifying that for me.