Pembroke & Cardigan Welsh Corgi

Fluffypants · 03-13-2007, 11:18 AM

I'm glad you found a solution that works for you. Hopefully this will improve your relationship with both of your dogs and make walks FUN for a change.

woogiebear · 03-13-2007, 11:23 AM

Yes, I was hoping the walks would end up being fun as I had originally thought that I could enjoy the excercise as much as they do. Before that was going to be an impossibility, but I am looking forward to a much more enjoyable experience for myself as well as them both now. I do take them both the same time as they compete for my attention constantly and I want to show them both they are both important etc. and sometimes that can be a bit taxing LOL!!

Clogs · 03-13-2007, 12:50 PM

Woogiebear: you mentioned that the dogs take more notice of your husband's voice than they do of yours. What I've noticed with a lot of women (here goes a sexist comment that I can be trashed on, lol...) is that they use an upward inflection at the end of a sentence or comment, so it turns into a question.

When this happens, "Come" "Sit" "Stay" become "Do you want to come?" "Do you want to sit?" etc, rather than "You will now come!" "You will now sit!" "You will now stay!"

Dogs are very quick to pick this, oddly enough, and will respond much more to a command that is downwardly inflected, as a statement, rather than upwardly.

Just a thought that you may want to consider.

woogiebear · 03-13-2007, 02:27 PM

Yes, I have thought about that too. I am very strong and dominant when I issue a command but somehow I get they idea they are looking at me sideways and saying "Yeah....RIGHT!"

I can usually get Rotten to repsond to "COME!" while he is in the house. But I get no response from "NO!", "DOWN!". Spoilt has an insane habit of (ok...you are going to laugh here) jumping up onto my gut or butt and using it as a bounce board so to say. I finally got a trick off that TV show I told yall about and put my hand out and make a "TssT!" noise. This seems to be working. He will still be happy and prancy but as long as my hand is out like that he will not ricochete off my body.

They know "Brackfast" (an inflection of the way I pronounce it) to eat and "Night Night" for time to go to thier crates. "Bye Bye" to go out through the back door and get into the car. "Skootch over" to get out of the drivers seat and let me in. And if I am in another room "Where are my BAAAYBEEES?" will get them running to find me.

So they do respond to some words....I just have to work on others. I find that if they think my voice is too strong they think they are in trouble and hesitate to cooperate.

Clogs · 03-13-2007, 03:16 PM

@ Woogiebear: "..hesitate to cooperate."
Yeah, it is a bit of a balancing act, isn't it? I find with the Clog she usually responds to a "reasonable" voice, (unless she is feeling disobedient!) but our daughter's dog needs the Alpha-voice all the time!

It's probably just a matter of time and consistency.

P.S. I lust lurve the avatar....

woogiebear · 03-13-2007, 03:24 PM

LOL!! Thank you! That was Rotten at about 6 months I believe. Here are my purty boys' Xmas picture this year.

Clogs · 03-13-2007, 06:28 PM

Ha! El cutoes! They look to be spoilt roten.

ColColt · 03-13-2007, 07:16 PM

What good looking guys they are. Bet with those bows they'd make good Chippendales!

I'll bet they're Southern boys, too.

ZdogZ · 03-13-2007, 08:07 PM

They are very handsome!

Michael Romanos · 03-14-2007, 04:02 AM

Two great looking guys.
It has been said on other threads, but it is worth repeating, that Corgis who have to cohabitate with other Corgis or other breeds of dogs, need, and would certainly enjoy, some space and time of their own away from each other and a separate walking/romping excursion once or twice weekly would be beneficial. and maybe one of the offshoots would be to make them more settled and willing to cooperate when taken out togteher.

Michael Romanos · 03-14-2007, 04:02 AM

Two great looking guys.
It has been said on other threads, but it is worth repeating, that Corgis who have to cohabitate with other Corgis or other breeds of dogs, need, and would certainly enjoy, some space and time of their own away from each other and a separate walking/romping excursion once or twice weekly would be beneficial. and maybe one of the offshoots would be to make them more settled and willing to cooperate when taken out together.

woogiebear · 03-14-2007, 08:47 AM

Thank you and yes, they are southern boys! We are in Houston Texas! YEEEHAWWWW! (How could you tell? LOL!)

CorgiMum · 03-14-2007, 10:40 AM

I'd like to add some alternative methods to help with leash walking problems that helped us, rather than a choke, or prong collar.

The first thing that I did was to stop walking both dogs together so that I could focus on the pupper that was giving me the sore back & arm. That was my now much better behaved Mr Dylan.

I began by this simple leash trick to stop him pulling. I only had to do it twice I think before he decided it was better to not pull than to be wrapped up like this: The Leash Wrap.

He does not look pleased, and he shouldn't. Obviously I was very careful with the leash, as he is a male dog.

CorgiMum · 03-14-2007, 10:49 AM

Once I had his attention, I was able to better forsee distraction problems ahead of us. Timing is eveything in dog training. BEFORE, he is distracted by a cat, another dog etc, I get his attention & treat him for focusing on me. He learned that not paying attention to the distraction, but paying attention to me was going to get him a very high value treat, (to the dog..cheese, chicken etc)

IMO making sure that the dog knows you as apha, and not as a push over has to be a huge part of the training.

Good luck, and please keep us posted on his progress.

Denaluvscorgis · 03-14-2007, 10:56 AM

I have similar problems with my Corgi, Chloe. She's a puller, she barks at other dogs and people, not to be mean, but to say "hi". Right now I'm using a harness on her. She still pulls really hard with that, but isn't able to slip out of it like she did with a collar. I'm still looking for something that will work better for her myself. It's sometimes difficult with our Corgi's who are so stubborn like mine is!!!!

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CorgiMum Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 931	I'd like to add some alternative methods to help with leash walking problems that helped us, rather than a choke, or prong collar. The first thing that I did was to stop walking both dogs together so that I could focus on the pupper that was giving me the sore back & arm. That was my now much better behaved Mr Dylan. I began by this simple leash trick to stop him pulling. I only had to do it twice I think before he decided it was better to not pull than to be wrapped up like this: The Leash Wrap. He does not look pleased, and he shouldn't. Obviously I was very careful with the leash, as he is a male dog. __________________ Greentrees' Top Royal Escort - DYLAN HIC, CGN, CD, FDN Texanda's Montrose - MONTROSE (aka Monty) HIC Last edited by CorgiMum; 04-03-2007 at 01:35 PM.

03-14-2007, 10:49 AM	#29 (permalink)
CorgiMum Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 931	Once I had his attention, I was able to better forsee distraction problems ahead of us. Timing is eveything in dog training. BEFORE, he is distracted by a cat, another dog etc, I get his attention & treat him for focusing on me. He learned that not paying attention to the distraction, but paying attention to me was going to get him a very high value treat, (to the dog..cheese, chicken etc) IMO making sure that the dog knows you as apha, and not as a push over has to be a huge part of the training. Good luck, and please keep us posted on his progress. __________________ Greentrees' Top Royal Escort - DYLAN HIC, CGN, CD, FDN Texanda's Montrose - MONTROSE (aka Monty) HIC Last edited by CorgiMum; 03-14-2007 at 10:53 AM.

03-13-2007, 11:23 AM	#17 (permalink)
woogiebear Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 83	Yes, I was hoping the walks would end up being fun as I had originally thought that I could enjoy the excercise as much as they do. Before that was going to be an impossibility, but I am looking forward to a much more enjoyable experience for myself as well as them both now. I do take them both the same time as they compete for my attention constantly and I want to show them both they are both important etc. and sometimes that can be a bit taxing LOL!!

03-13-2007, 12:50 PM	#18 (permalink)
Clogs Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Frequently seen in a big, green bus. Posts: 362	Woogiebear: you mentioned that the dogs take more notice of your husband's voice than they do of yours. What I've noticed with a lot of women (here goes a sexist comment that I can be trashed on, lol...) is that they use an upward inflection at the end of a sentence or comment, so it turns into a question. When this happens, "Come" "Sit" "Stay" become "Do you want to come?" "Do you want to sit?" etc, rather than "You will now come!" "You will now sit!" "You will now stay!" Dogs are very quick to pick this, oddly enough, and will respond much more to a command that is downwardly inflected, as a statement, rather than upwardly. Just a thought that you may want to consider.

03-13-2007, 02:27 PM	#19 (permalink)
woogiebear Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 83	Yes, I have thought about that too. I am very strong and dominant when I issue a command but somehow I get they idea they are looking at me sideways and saying "Yeah....RIGHT!" I can usually get Rotten to repsond to "COME!" while he is in the house. But I get no response from "NO!", "DOWN!". Spoilt has an insane habit of (ok...you are going to laugh here) jumping up onto my gut or butt and using it as a bounce board so to say. I finally got a trick off that TV show I told yall about and put my hand out and make a "TssT!" noise. This seems to be working. He will still be happy and prancy but as long as my hand is out like that he will not ricochete off my body. They know "Brackfast" (an inflection of the way I pronounce it) to eat and "Night Night" for time to go to thier crates. "Bye Bye" to go out through the back door and get into the car. "Skootch over" to get out of the drivers seat and let me in. And if I am in another room "Where are my BAAAYBEEES?" will get them running to find me. So they do respond to some words....I just have to work on others. I find that if they think my voice is too strong they think they are in trouble and hesitate to cooperate.

03-13-2007, 03:16 PM	#20 (permalink)
Clogs Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Frequently seen in a big, green bus. Posts: 362	@ Woogiebear: "..hesitate to cooperate." Yeah, it is a bit of a balancing act, isn't it? I find with the Clog she usually responds to a "reasonable" voice, (unless she is feeling disobedient!) but our daughter's dog needs the Alpha-voice all the time! It's probably just a matter of time and consistency. P.S. I lust lurve the avatar....

03-13-2007, 06:28 PM	#22 (permalink)
Clogs Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Frequently seen in a big, green bus. Posts: 362	Ha! El cutoes! They look to be spoilt roten.

03-13-2007, 07:16 PM	#23 (permalink)
ColColt Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: East Tennessee Posts: 445	What good looking guys they are. Bet with those bows they'd make good Chippendales! I'll bet they're Southern boys, too.

03-13-2007, 08:07 PM	#24 (permalink)
ZdogZ Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 656	They are very handsome!

03-14-2007, 04:02 AM	#25 (permalink)
Michael Romanos Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Silverstream (near Wellington, the capital of NZ) Posts: 5,188	Two great looking guys. It has been said on other threads, but it is worth repeating, that Corgis who have to cohabitate with other Corgis or other breeds of dogs, need, and would certainly enjoy, some space and time of their own away from each other and a separate walking/romping excursion once or twice weekly would be beneficial. and maybe one of the offshoots would be to make them more settled and willing to cooperate when taken out togteher.

03-14-2007, 04:02 AM	#26 (permalink)
Michael Romanos Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Silverstream (near Wellington, the capital of NZ) Posts: 5,188	Two great looking guys. It has been said on other threads, but it is worth repeating, that Corgis who have to cohabitate with other Corgis or other breeds of dogs, need, and would certainly enjoy, some space and time of their own away from each other and a separate walking/romping excursion once or twice weekly would be beneficial. and maybe one of the offshoots would be to make them more settled and willing to cooperate when taken out together.

03-14-2007, 08:47 AM	#27 (permalink)
woogiebear Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 83	Thank you and yes, they are southern boys! We are in Houston Texas! YEEEHAWWWW! (How could you tell? LOL!)

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03-14-2007, 10:56 AM	#30 (permalink)
Denaluvscorgis Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 39	I have similar problems with my Corgi, Chloe. She's a puller, she barks at other dogs and people, not to be mean, but to say "hi". Right now I'm using a harness on her. She still pulls really hard with that, but isn't able to slip out of it like she did with a collar. I'm still looking for something that will work better for her myself. It's sometimes difficult with our Corgi's who are so stubborn like mine is!!!!

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