''We never see corgis anymore''

[love2corgis]

Easter Monday and a fine sunny one at that and our local beach was full today- lot of dogs to meet and sniff at- one snarl from a poodle at Sooty and a Jack Russell at Cindy- and one minor growl back from Sooty- don't snarl at my girl.
The main theme though was: 4 groups of people stopped to admire the corgis and they all said ''we don't see many corgis anymore'' and two said they had had corgis as a child.They were so pleased to see them.

The fashion in our part of the UK is certainly for Jack Russells- we saw 5 today( can be horrible dogs- my niece has two dreadful terrors not terriers) and Labradors and of course the scary Staffordshire Bull Terriers. We don't mind the Labs- Sooty and Cindy have a Lab cousin( my brother's dog) Mind you Sooty has a JR girlfriend who was rescued from a puppy farm having been a breeding machine for 4 years so I am glad that corgis are not popular.

Will try another part of the coastline tomorrow to see if we get any more reaction.

[Michael Romanos]

I know a fair bit about Jack Russells and Bishon Frises and the mixes that they produce from these dogs with other breeds, and my thoughts are that generally, people are making a mistake when they get these breeds because they are among the sillier dog breeds that exist. Yet people are hanging their hats on the basis that these are increasingly popular dogs and they are dog typical. They are not. Jack Russells can also be very clever if in a silly way. Some peoiple will call it personality. The world's most typical dogs would be Labs, German Shepherds and Border Collies and there aint nothing that is generally silly about any of these breeds. I usually steer clear of any dogs with Bull in their breed title apart fron Bulldogs - or are Bull or Boxer apparant.

[glencorgi]

Jack Russells - silly? They're terriers for goodness sakes - drive, determination, focus and intent on their goals and purpose. Their "cute" factor does land them in homes that are not suited for them, which is no different than many corgis. Bichon Frise's - cute, personable, clownish, energetic and less hard edge to them, lots of grooming though. The attraction to both of these breeds would be size and "cute" factor and publicity via television shows and movie appearances. I have known a few "silly" Labs, but all around great dogs - loyal, biddable. German Shepherds (GSD) - nice work ethic to them, but IF not in the right hands, can have a bad outcome. Border Collies (BC's) not a silly bone in their bodies - they are all about the work and very smart. Their intelligence is an attracting point to the breed and why they end up in the wrong homes for them too many times. Because they are perceived as "smart" the assumption is they should just automatically be house trained and do tricks and know they aren't supposed to chew on shoes, etc, etc, etc. (Corgis get this too and we've had forum members that got caught up in that trap - dogs are/were smarter than their humans.) Never dawns on their humans that they need to be trained. BC's and GSD's, I wouldn't categorize as dog typical; dog typical to me would be mutts. And while some may choose to steer clear of the Bully breeds based on stereotypes and media sensationalism; there are many who steer clear of corgis for the same reasoning. My Mother's neighbor's granddaughter works in a vet office's boarding facility. They have a corgi client that when he shows up, they immediately bring out the muzzle. I've had vets tell me they see two kinds of corgis - good ones and bad ones. Punish the deed, not the breed.

Debbie

[ColColt]

They have a corgi client that when he shows up, they immediately bring out the muzzle. I've had vets tell me they see two kinds of corgis - good ones and bad ones.

I can't imagine the need of muzzling a corgi??? A dangerous breed? Where are these people's heads?

Punish the deed, not the breed

Amen...I use to think the only logical place for Pit Bulls was on a desert island somewhere in Botswana. This is what happens when you hear and read all the media hype about them. If Cesar Millan did nothing else good for me, he made me see they are not as we see and hear about them on CNN and all the newspaper articles about this "killer breed". Everything has to do with whose household their in and how or if they're trained. Thos two Pits he has on his show, Popeye and Daddy, are two of the sweetest dogs I've seen.

[LittlePonzo]

Daddy is an adorable Pit. He is so calm and gentle...However, we need to remember that any breed can be horrific if the owner is not prepared or knowledgable. My family had a maltese when I was younger, Snowball-she was the most neurotic dog, come to find out she had White Dog Shaker Syndrome after her death, poor thing, anyway I had friends with two Maltese who were MEAN! My dog, although neurotic, was super sweet. I have met nasty pit bulls, and silly kissy pit bulls. And although, it hurts me to admit it, I am very wary around GSDs, I have met gentle ones of those as well. I think it really boils down to, how knowledgable are the owners. People who coddle their Chihuahuas end up with terrors, others who rescue vicious dogs work their magic and end up with marvelous dogs. Know your "stuff" and you'll have little problems with any breed regardless of cruddy breeding habits and personality traits. But hey, this is just my two cents!

[ColColt]

I had a Samoyed as my first dog after I left home. Her name was Snowball too! Every time I wold come home she would greet me and then proceed to pee in the floor. I use to get so mad at her but, at 24 what do you know about anything!! I sure thought I knew mostly everything though.

I think you hit the nail on the head, LittlePonzo. Any breed can be such a joy to be around if taught properly. So much depends on the environment and the training and time you're willing to invest in them. I just had Pit Bulls, Mastiffs and Rottweilers all in the same box...nasty, vicious animals only wanting to maim and kill. Odd how our perception of realty changes when we view them from the other side of the coin and see just how lovable they can be if in the right hands.

Corgis, on the other hand, are mostly perfect always.

[Michael Romanos]

Of course I don't know all the breeds, but other than Jack Russells and Bishon Frises, other generally silly types of dogs that come to mind are Afgan Hounds, English Cocker Spaniels, Irish Setters. Though I have a feeling that Irish Setters are not as silly as they once were. I say 'generally in a broad sense of the word, because there would be many exceptions.

[glencorgi]

Originally Posted by ColColt

I can't imagine the need of muzzling a corgi??? A dangerous breed? Where are these people's heads?

Ask to see my battle scars at the TN picnic ColColt.

Search through the archives and look for a thread I did on the Queen's corgis. You'll also find corgis on the list of dangerous dog breeds in Italy.

Irish Setters - beautiful dogs, just haven't met one with a brain though.

Afghan's - another beautiful breed - a bit aloof.

We have to remember all the things we might not care for about a breed or in a breed are the same things that endear fans and devotees to them.

Debbie

[Michael Romanos]

I've said it before but here goes again: The Wellington Welsh Corgi Walking Club has 30-odd pure bred Corgis as members and apart from two totally out of character poorly bred-looking Cardis whom have not been sighted on the Corgis walks for two years, the rest get on with each other and with people including babies, toddlers and kids, like a house on fire. And these Corgis are just your ordinary type of Corgi guy and gal.
So in the era from the mid 1980s up til now, I cannot see in at least some of the countries I know about, where a Corgi would get any kind of reputation which says they are a candidate for muzzling in public and could be considered for a list of dangerous breeds. It is ludicrous. Though I have stated that different breeds of dogs can be a little different in temperament in other countries due to breeding and handling and the characteristics of the people and the conditions of those countries.

My opinion of silly breeds in a general sense, is not only my own but quite a few other people also seem to hold similar views.

[love2corgis]

Horror upon horror- this man today on the beach asked me if the dogs were cross breeds as they couldn't possibly be pedigree corgis as he had never seen tri- colours. Well if he did..... LOL

[ColColt]

Search through the archives and look for a thread I did on the Queen's corgis. You'll also find corgis on the list of dangerous dog breeds in Italy.

I just read that thread, Debbie. I guess even Corgis can be a problem at times and get snappy and grouchy but, I don't think that's the norm. Somewhere I read about the Italians listing Corgis as a dangerous breed but, it only caused a good chuckle from me...can you image a 25 pound dog being dangerous?: Perhaps the Queen's dogs were a bit spoiled and not trained as well as they should-don't know about that but, I'm sure she was quite put out having been bitten by one and having to appear in public with her hand bandaged, but-a dangerous breed?

Perhaps we can share battle scars as I have several myself and remember how, when, and where I attained them.

[Peggy]

Originally Posted by ColColt

I can't imagine the need of muzzling a corgi??? A dangerous breed? Where are these people's heads?

I can. I have two here in foster care and I can't even brush or comb them without muzzling them. Apparently they were taken to groomers for grooming. And I'll bet they were muzzled there too. (I do my own grooming.)

And yes, an out of control corgi, meaning untrained, can be a "dangerous dog". It just depends on what they've been allowed to get away with.

Peggy