Corgi time soon!

[Michael Romanos]

Jprechel - what exactly do you mean by your Ace "biting."

[jprechel]

Michael - Ace likes to bite my wife like he would a toy. She doesn't play rough but he will play for awhile then start to bite her instead of the toy she tries to give him. If she gets up to stop the play (because of the biting) Ace likes to follow her and bite at her pants or ankles. We tried the bitter apple in his mouth last night when he started biting her arm and it stopped him. A trainer at our puppy class suggested that. We know Ace is "playing" but he needs to realize that is not the kind of play we want. We are working on it!

[Cardiguy]

Good move waiting for the 12wk old corgi Rockandroll as Glencorgi is right on the money with what she is saying.

[tandemgal]

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[Chip's Mom]

jprechel

That is exactly the problem we have had with Chip. Although he is better now, he still pulls on my pantleg and once in awhile will get to rough playing. He doesn't do that with my husband. I would yell ouch and he would look at me for a second and then start again.

[Michael Romanos]

What works almost always with pups is when they grab with their mouths ie teeth, the recipient cries out in pain - not playfully - and then says NO in a firm voice. If the puppy responds by stopping his/her action ie letting go,, reward him/her with praise and a tit bit treat

An elderly guy who lives alone has a now six month old Pem whi bit into his thumb the other day and drew blood. But that pup has cause to bite. His owner has never before had a pup and simply doesn't know the hows and wherefors in dealing with a Corgi pup. For a start he's hit the pup and kicked him away a few times; for no good reason he has tried to take a dog biscuit away from the Corgi more than once after having given it to him - something I wouldn't even do with my fellow; he has no array of suitable toys for the pup to play with; he seldom handles, probably never plays with him or give him cuddles; When he tries to attach a lead to the pup's collar, the pup objects and tries to bite the owner.
Well before now, the Corgi should be well trained and behaved as far as puppies three-six months can be but it takes two to tango..A very promising Corgi pup who had no cause to be any different from any other Corgi, is becoming unruly, unhappy and could become unmanageable. I think I'll send him by air (not Delta) accross the puddle to Debbie's rescue operation.

[darci]

What a sad story, it just breaks my heart for that poor pup.

[glencorgi]

Originally Posted by Michael Romanos

A very promising Corgi pup who had no cause to be any different from any other Corgi, is becoming unruly, unhappy and could become unmanageable. I think I'll send him by air (not Delta) accross the puddle to Debbie's rescue operation.

Sadly an all too familiar story, we'd take him. Hopefully someone can reach the owner with proper training methods or get the puppy out of there soon before permanent behavioral issues set in and he turns into a real biter.

Debbie

[Michael Romanos]

About an hour before I read Debbie's post (immediately above this one) I phoned the elderly owner of Taffy and offered to have the six month old Corgi for 14 days at a cost of $5 a day plus food expenses and me and Taylor will endeavour to settle and train the little beggar. He's not even properly house trained!! He toilets in a tray when he's inside that is in the area of the house where he's allowed to stay for long periods. Really he needs lots of TLC and properly directed discipline and given a high interest focus. Taking a pup for a walk is excellent but there are 23.6 other hours in a day. When I went to see Taffy last weekend, I just slipped Taylor's choke chain over his head and he led me around and about - but there was no big hassle like when his owner had been trying to attach a lead to his collar and Taffy puting up a fight.
And he did sit for me and I gave him a reward each time and he did try and gobble evrything including my hand - but that's ok - he's never been taught manners and from the first treat I gave him to the last - there was even a marked difference in the velocity of this aspect.
Taffy's owner, Jack is thinking about my offer. It's a better one than his idea of returning the pup to his breeders - I very much doubt if they would take him back under any circumstances. They sold him to Jack for NZ$600 some three to four months ago.
Two weeks aint much time but I think I can achieve quite a lot. It will be challenging. I may be experienced with Corgi upbringing but not from such a vunerable position.

[Chip's Mom]

Good luck Michael. You may be surprised at how fast he will learn. Putting him in a loving environment and with your Taylor as an example - The sad part will be that you will have to take him back to his owner. I think hitting a corgi is about the worst thing you can do to these soft-hearted little dogs. Scolding is hard enough on them - For Chip it is ignore the mistakes (unless he bites) and praise the accomplishments.

[darci]

Thats wonderful for you to do this, but what would you be sending him home to?
Are you going to work with the owner too? On how to properly treat and train an dog?
I hope you are able to do both, what a happy corgi and family that could make, otherwise I would encourage him to give him up for rescue.

Good luck.

[Chip's Mom]

Maybe Michael will get "attached" and be able to keep him.

[corgimom]

Wow Michael,

What a wonderful offer - I hope this guy gives you the dog. Maybe once
the dog is out of his home, he will realize that he doesn't want him back and
you can either keep the dog or find him a loving home - I cannot imagine
hitting a dog of any kind, especially a Corgi.

Anyone that treats a dog in the manner that he does has other issues
going on in his life and he takes them out on the poor dog - I hope he
takes up your offer.

Linda

[Michael Romanos]

THanks for all the support. Jack just admitted to me when I asked him, that he had hit Taffy a few times and kicked to brush him away - so I don't think Taffy has been severely mistreated. I had surmised - before I asked him - that Taffy had been roiughly handled. It's the case of a frustrated man who can't understand why the pup is not like the three year old Pem he had inherited from his daughter (who died as a young adult of cancer). Jack had the Corgi for 10 years or so and Taffy is his replacement. But as you all know pups have a life of their own and are an entirely different proposition.
If I was to get another Corgi - it won't be for at least three more years and there would have to be some kind of close breeding connection with Taylor.

Yes, Jack needs to be further clued up on how to properly treat and train his Corgi and it's important to work on this. But for a start, both him and Taffy need space from each other.

[Jhemphill]

Good luck Michael our thoughts are with you, Taylor and Taffy.