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[Peggy]

Originally Posted by gogogiraffes

That doesn't stop them from mating just mellows the man out?

It just calms a dog it doesn't knock them out. I have also used it at dog shows too for a dog that's a bit stressed. They still show just fine. So yes, IF I wanted to breed a dog he'd still be able to do that.

The problem is that females come in season every 6 mos or so. (some a little more often some a little less). I don't breed them every time they come in, that is not good for the dogs. So the number of times they come in season is many more than the number of times they are bred. And I would not breed every male each time a female comes in. In fact I may not even own the "right" male for a specifc female I own. So the times a male gets to breed is much less also.

Just a female being in season is stressful for a male dog. They get testy and argumentative with the other males. Some will go off their food. Some will whine when the female gets close to being ready to breed. All this gets stressful to me too, so adding rescue remedy to their water settles them down some.

And all this is why I recommend that if you're not showing or breeding then you should alter you dogs. Much easier on nervous systems for them and you.

Peggy

[Dillydoodle]

Peggy thanks for posting that .. Gus was one of those intact dogs that in his previous home was around another one much more dominant intact male (not corgi) and 7 females (also not corgis) that were going in to heat one after another after another and he was a very unhappy boy. This home situation actually made his auto immune condition worse becuase of the constant state of stress he was under.
We were the perfect home... no female dogs... only one other neutered male...he is a much happier and healthier dog.

Emilie

[Peggy]

Originally Posted by Dillydoodle

Peggy thanks for posting that .. Gus was one of those intact dogs that in his previous home was around another one much more dominant intact male (not corgi) and 7 females (also not corgis) that were going in to heat one after another after another

Females tend to come in season at the same time or one after another like you mention. And yes, that can be very stressful on the boys.

This home situation actually made his auto immune condition worse becuase of the constant state of stress he was under.

I can understand that. Stress can make them worse.

We were the perfect home... no female dogs... only one other neutered male...he is a much happier and healthier dog.

Good, and I'll bet he's glad!

Peggy

[FlyingCorgi]

Originally Posted by Dillydoodle

You know something you said really rings true with me too... people think that just becuase I am picky about what my dogs eat, what treats they get, what dogs they socialize with, where i take them, etc that I am snobbish with my dog.. I get upset that people feel that way, but not upset enough that I will EVER change that. My Dogs come first...that is the committment i made when I chose to have dogs ...I waited a very long time to get a dog... and when i got Dillon I made sure i was in the right place in my life to be able to give this dog the best life i could and I wont screw that up!!! If people don't get it, then oh well for them.

I hope this week ends quickly for you so you can get back to a less stressful exisitance and that Ein can relax a little .

Emilie

Thanks. I totally understand what you've said. I was so happy to get Ein at this time in my life when I'm financially capable of taking care of him and providing the things that he needs rather than whatever is cheapest at the discount store this week. I work in retail and when I see people picking up those giant bags of corn dog food it just makes me want to tell them about some of the harmful things I know about the mass-produced foods.

It's pretty amazing how many people don't realize that the food they're feeding their dogs really isn't all that great for them. Most folks don't do any kind of comparison shopping or research before making choices for their pet.

[FlyingCorgi]

Originally Posted by gogogiraffes

I hope you and Ein and Sammy and your boyfriend and his family can come to a consensus about everything.

Another idea would be, how far do they live? You could go over and take care of Sammy at his place?

How do Ein and Sammy react on a walk as well?

My b/f doesn't exactly have the personality to be telling his parents something like that. It's why I never tend to get along with the parents, I'm too independent and they're too submissive. If anyone told them, it would be me.

They live over an hour to the south of us which would be a pretty long round trip drive. Their cat and bird are still there and they get visited twice during the week to make sure that they have enough food and water.

Sammy likes to walk in front of the other dog so he's always pulling during walks. Ein still doesn't know how to heel and I've been working with him about pulling. All of that was out the window due to the other dog that he wanted to play with. We ended up having to take Sammy on ahead while I worked on the 'no pull' command with Ein. They managed to walk side by side for about five feet during the entire walk.

[FlyingCorgi]

Originally Posted by Corgis4me

You can explain to them what you have been experiencing and how Ein has been acting just like you have posted on here. Just be honest. I would think after hearing what you have to say they would understand that next time they need to make other arrangements, but really, I think your boyfriend should be the one telling them. You know you may have to tell them somday to not give their grandkids so many treats I guess you might as well start now with being able to let them know that what happened was not right with you.

As for the Rescue Remedy, do you have a Walgreens? some of them carry it.

I'm hoping that he will say something to them but he's not taking this whole thing as seriously as I am. The fact that they can't be together in the same room without Ein trying to play and Sammy growling and attacking doesn't mean anything to him. They're just dogs.

No worries about kids, motherhood's not for me. They can rely on their daughter for grandkids to spoil. *g*

[FlyingCorgi]

Originally Posted by Peggy

And all this is why I recommend that if you're not showing or breeding then you should alter you dogs. Much easier on nervous systems for them and you.

Peggy

I'm waiting for a good time when I can get a couple of days off to watch him. also, he's in classes so I don't know if that will make a difference while obeying commands with the incision still new.

[Peggy]

Originally Posted by FlyingCorgi

I'm waiting for a good time when I can get a couple of days off to watch him. also, he's in classes so I don't know if that will make a difference while obeying commands with the incision still new.

Males heal pretty quick. But yes, he'll need a few days off to heal. When his classes are over would be a good time.

Peggy

[FlyingCorgi]

Originally Posted by Peggy

Males heal pretty quick. But yes, he'll need a few days off to heal. When his classes are over would be a good time.

Peggy

That's what I'm hoping for. If I can get time off some in August we'll just get it done during the week after a class. I've never had a male dog but my mother's female had to be kept overnight as a requirement of the clinic. Anyone know if this is the case for males?

[gogogiraffes]

Originally Posted by FlyingCorgi

That's what I'm hoping for. If I can get time off some in August we'll just get it done during the week after a class. I've never had a male dog but my mother's female had to be kept overnight as a requirement of the clinic. Anyone know if this is the case for males?

The SPCA did Gizmo's. I dropped him off at 8. And picked him up at 4. They did it for free because I'm a college student. And they had fed him and everything for me.

[FlyingCorgi]

Originally Posted by gogogiraffes

The SPCA did Gizmo's. I dropped him off at 8. And picked him up at 4. They did it for free because I'm a college student. And they had fed him and everything for me.

Wow, that's nice of them. Back when I had cats 8 years ago you could get a rebate for having them fixed. I don't think that there will be anything like that for Ein. His vet is about a five minute walk from my house which is great. I wonder if they can have him in and out in a day as well. I would feel a lot better to have him at home with me.

[K9skennel]

the only reason they kept Sanka and Rocket overnight was because we dropped them off the day before, so they could keep them off food, and have them there early enough to do the surgeries.
Rocket was pretty woozy and out of it the first day, then he was pretty much fine.

[Peggy]

Originally Posted by FlyingCorgi

That's what I'm hoping for. If I can get time off some in August we'll just get it done during the week after a class. I've never had a male dog but my mother's female had to be kept overnight as a requirement of the clinic. Anyone know if this is the case for males?

It depends on the vet. Some will keep them overnight to watch them and some send them home the same day. You'll have to ask yours what they do.

Peggy

[LaRogue]

I've never had a male dog but my mother's female had to be kept overnight as a requirement of the clinic. Anyone know if this is the case for males?

Like Peggy said, it depends on your vet. In this area, they seem to keep the girls over night (maybe because they are actually cutting them open?) and the boys go home later in the day.

As far as Samy goes...is he your boyfriend's parents dog or your boyfriend's dog who stayed with Mom & Dad when your boyfriend left left the nest? Either way, you tried it, it didn't work out, other arrangements need to be made for Sammy in the future.

[FlyingCorgi]

Originally Posted by LaRogue

Like Peggy said, it depends on your vet. In this area, they seem to keep the girls over night (maybe because they are actually cutting them open?) and the boys go home later in the day.

As far as Samy goes...is he your boyfriend's parents dog or your boyfriend's dog who stayed with Mom & Dad when your boyfriend left left the nest? Either way, you tried it, it didn't work out, other arrangements need to be made for Sammy in the future.

He's the parents dog, not the b/f's. Something definitely has to happen since I believe that most of the bad things that have happened this week have been a direct or indirect result of having this dog in the house. I've already told him that I don't want to have the dog back but he seems to think it's more a problem with Ein than Sammy. Only time will tell.