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Old 11-17-2006, 11:13 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Old 11-17-2006, 11:20 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Michael, I think you just found your mission statement
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Old 11-17-2006, 11:35 PM   #18 (permalink)
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One way of possibly finding a Corgi breeder is to do a search on Dogster for a Corgi in the town/city/area/State (or nearest to) that you would like to locate a breeder, and ask the Corgi members where they got their Corgi/s from. I haven't kept up with numbers recently, but there could be 5000 Corgi owners on Dogster with a large majority of them living in the USA. Of course, if you go to individual pages on Dogster you can get a pretty good idea (with several photos included) of the kind of Corgi the member has.
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With possibly 5000 Corgi owners on Dogster, you are going to have your hands full sorting out the good fruit from the poor fruit when you look for your next Corgi.

I may be wrong here, but I don't think anyone can send an email to a person on Dogster unless they join Dogster themselves.
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Old 11-18-2006, 12:45 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Michael: you do not understand just how bad the problem of backyard breeding is here, as well as questionable breeding and registration practices. Only desperate people, inexperienced with the process, would go to any of the dog sites and buy a puppy that way, and we here, as responsable GOCORGI members should never steer anyone who is obviously inexperienced and desperate to those sights. For the life of me, I don't understand how someone could do that and sleep at night. We live in an "I want it now" society, but this is not a decision that should be made in that manner.

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Old 11-18-2006, 01:34 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Linda - I think you enjoy try making a fool out of me. When I said 5000 Corgi members - not all are in Utah or Ohio or in Uganda or wherever. Membership of Dogster is free - so when one sees a possibile contact, one can join if that is what it takes. I inferred or I think I inferred, that one can enquire of a member who has what might look and read like a pretty good Corgi, where that person got the Corgi from - and then one can get a lead to a possible breeder in the region. Have I made it clear now? Don't tell me you frustrate your cats too?
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Old 11-18-2006, 06:00 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Old 11-18-2006, 07:57 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Linda - I think you enjoy try making a fool out of me. When I said 5000 Corgi members - not all are in Utah or Ohio or in Uganda or wherever. Membership of Dogster is free - so when one sees a possibile contact, one can join if that is what it takes. I inferred or I think I inferred, that one can enquire of a member who has what might look and read like a pretty good Corgi, where that person got the Corgi from - and then one can get a lead to a possible breeder in the region. Have I made it clear now? Don't tell me you frustrate your cats too?

Michael,

Your frustrate me as much as I frustrate you, so we are equal there. Maybe Dogster members won't appreciate you announcing on here that people should join that site with the main reason being to try and contact them for information regarding a breeder.
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Old 11-18-2006, 08:21 AM   #23 (permalink)
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It would be interesting to know how many people on this site found their corgi on petfinders.com. That is where I found Chip. I called several places and ask lots of questions. I drove the 7 to 8 hours to see him, check out the facilities, etc. I have been more than satisfied with Chip and his breeder. Even though Chip has an overbite. The vet and I had a lengthy discussion on this and after his surgery, she determined that it was a fluke and not heriditary. Even so, the breeder has offered me pick of the litter. She has called me several times, emailed me inquiring about Chip. I would recommend her as a breeder. Her facilities are very clean, her dogs are much loved and well taken care of. She has taken in a 12 lb registered "champion in his lineage" puppy from a puppy mill that has been in a crate all of his life and rocks him to sleep every night. She had to pay for this dog. Now this probably isn't the norm as to what you would find on puppyfind.com but I think people should really educate themselves and know what questions to ask, go to the facility and see for themselves what it looks like. If more people would just pick up their puppy, this would stop alot of the puppymills because they are deceivers and you can't cover up what the eyes can see. Just like the pictures that were posted here in another thread. I guess what I am trying to say is there is good and bad all ways around but I felt the need to defend Chip's breeder.
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Old 11-19-2006, 01:09 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Emilie - what I perhaps should have added to the "good fruit, bad fruit" line, was "with some prior knowledge, and help from such websites as Go Corgi." But it was only meant as a kind of one-liner not a full blown resume.

If someone contacted me through Dogster, I could put them on to most of the prominent breeders of Corgis in NZ and at least couple in Australia.

Linda - I am sorry to have blasted into you. You bring out the best and the worse of me. You only mean well and you have come along way inside the last 12 months.

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I was away for the weekend (dog show fun) so I am really late to this thread.

To answer the original question:
1) There are no PWCCA members living in Utah, so the membership/breeder list will not be of help there. That does NOT mean there are not responsible breeders in UT, just that because of the nature of the requirements for membership in the PWCCA, it really restricts the opportunity for them to become members.
2) When recommending the PWCCA site for potential breeders, always suggest folks check out the regional club nearest them. This expands the base of breeders to work from and regional club members are also required to adhere to the PWCCA CoE.
3) There ARE 2 or 3 reputable responsible Breeders in UT. To start your search here ya go: http://www.utahcorgis.com/
This will be a good place to get in touch with the corgi community in your state and some of the activities they have going on. They'll also be able to put you in touch with breeders as well.

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If someone contacted me through Dogster, I could put them on to most of the prominent breeders of Corgis in NZ and at least couple in Australia.
So why are you less discerning and conscientious about the recommendations you pass on from the US? I know the reputations of some of the ones you have posted along to lookers and well, it'd be best not to talk of them further. I have no hesitation or reservations in saying there are a number of GoCorgi members from the US who could do a much better job of recommending NZ and Austrailan breeders to someone looking there than you do with what you've come up in your recommendations in the US. The where's, how to's and what to look fors have been posted time and time again, yet you seem to pay no attention. And given some of the one's you've come up with, it is questionable as to how well you can separate the wheat from the chaff.

For the record the epitome of websites and what to look for in a breeder has been posted to this forum in a past thread and I pointed it out.

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Old 11-22-2006, 03:09 AM   #28 (permalink)
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In reply to Debbie - if I knew anyone less prominent (including casual or one-off) as a Corgi breeder in NZ and Australia who had Corgi pups for sale or whose female was expecting pups, I would also provide details. Can I get any more plainer.
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In reply to Debbie - if I knew anyone less prominent (including casual or one-off) as a Corgi breeder in NZ and Australia who had Corgi pups for sale or whose female was expecting pups, I would also provide details. Can I get any more plainer.
No, this is perfectly consistent with the type of breeders in the US you have been recommending - you'll basically recommend anyone who happens to have a litter of puppies on the ground regardless of standards, ethics, background, quality, reputation or any other criteria that a conscientious responsible corgi owner takes into account when making recommendations to someone looking for a puppy. Given the breeders you have recommended I feel it rather hypocritical that you should become outraged that support and education is lacking to a new corgi owner when they purchase from someone of the ilk you recommend.

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Dear Ada,

Make sure any recommendation of a breeder you get is from someone who either has one of their dogs, knows someone well who has one of their dogs or is otherwise very familiar with the breeder.

I just checked Dogster and there are 11 Pembroke Corgis on the site that live in Utah, including Checkers and Delilah, who's owners are members here. I'd be happy to email all of these owners to see if they could recommend the breeder they went to. (If they did, in fact, get their dog from a breeder.)

Fancy websites and vague recommendations don't mean the dogs or the breeder will be good or bad. If you find a good breeder that doesn't have pups right now, you can ask them if they can recommend another breeder. People who really care about the breed and not the money should be willing to do that. The breeder I got Jemma from was recomended by three other breeders who didn't have dogs at the time I was looking. She is not actively involved in the CKC (Canadian Kennel Club) but is a lifetime member. I also went out to see her operation and meet her dogs. A good breeder should have as many questions for you as you have for them.

Sadly in the North America, dogs mean money to a lot of people, they are only being bred for money and nothing else, so like everything else, it's buyer beware.
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