Corgi Trivia - Best in Show

[sweetlychee]

Hi All,

I thought I would share this with everyone. I was browsing the Westminister Kennel Club page. I was curious to see the history of breeds and if any corgis ever won anything. I don't know too much about showing dogs but I would be proud to find if any corgis in the herding group won anything.

Here's what I found:

Most consecutive Group wins - 3
Pembroke Welsh Corgi (2000-02)

Most consecutive Group placements - 8
Pembroke Welsh Corgi (1997-2004)

Current streak of Group placements - 8
Pembroke Welsh Corgi (1997-2004)

Most consecutive Group placements - 8
Pembroke Welsh Corgi (1997-2004)

Current streak of Group placements - 8
Pembroke Welsh Corgi (1997-2004)

Here's the link

I don't know what current streak or consecutive group placements mean. Anyone know? It would be great if a corgi won best in show in the past. I don't know how to find that. In our hearts, our own corgis are already winners!

[glencorgi]

Originally Posted by sweetlychee

I don't know what current streak or consecutive group placements mean. Anyone know? It would be great if a corgi won best in show in the past. I don't know how to find that. In our hearts, our own corgis are already winners!

Current streak would be the in the years between 1997-2004 a Pembroke placed in the group every year in that time frame. 2005 the streak broke. Consecutive group placements, pretty much the same thing.

No Pembroke has ever won Best In Show, which is not a bad thing. The very next day after a big win like that, the phone calls and inquiries begin rolling in from everywhere wanting a dog just like the one that won. Those breeding only to cash in on the next big popular breed begin cranking out puppies to fill the demand. As a result, whichever breed won you'll find a disclaimer and educational information on the parent club's website the very next day to educate what it is like to live with that breed. In about two years time, shelters and rescues will see an increase in that particular breed because, it is no longer the cute puppy and guess what, it doesn't act like the one they saw in the show ring. People aren't prepared to live with the demands of that particular breed whether it is slobber or grooming or shedding or natural temperament. I've seen it when the Pembroke wins the group. High profile exposure is not necessarily the most beneficial thing that can happen to a breed.

As a postscript, I was thrilled with the Bull Terrier's win this past year. As so many breed specific laws are in place and continue to be passed - the Westminister winner of 2006 couldn't visit Denver, CO for example because "pit bulls" are illegal there - I think it did a great deal of good to awaken the general public.

Debbie

[Fluffypants]

Originally Posted by glencorgi

Current streak would be the in the years between 1997-2004 a Pembroke placed in the group every year in that time frame. 2005 the streak broke. Debbie

Darn that handsome devil Dallas!

I love the colored bull terriers - so funny looking they are cute! Funny that they didn't let him into Denver, considering they are a different breed (although, admittedly, similar ancestry). Rufus is a cutie!

[sweetlychee]

True, Glencorgi but it's still good to know and learn about the corgi history. It's fascinating and ever since owning a corgi, I wanted to learn more about the breed, the history, and more.

[glencorgi]

Originally Posted by Fluffypants

I love the colored bull terriers - so funny looking they are cute! Funny that they didn't let him into Denver, considering they are a different breed (although, admittedly, similar ancestry). Rufus is a cutie!

But he's not a "different" breed - Rufus is very much one of the bully breeds. Technically, there is no such breed really as a "pit bull." UKC recognizes the American Pit Bull Terrier - but "pit bull" encompasses all the bully breeds. American Staffordshire Terriers, Staffordshire Terriers (known in England as "nanny dogs"), the Bull Terriers, American Bulldogs, English Bulldogs, the list goes on and on ... . These are the target of breedist (animal equivalent of racist) legislation today. At this point I'll remind everyone that if breed specific legislation is proposed in your area, it best be looked at with a wary and raised eyebrow and I would advise making opposition known. Corgis are among the breeds labeled dangerous in Italy and what starts in Europe usually finds it way across the pond.

Debbie

[sweetlychee]

I don't know too much about other breeds but I have heard that corgis are pretty smart and rank one of the smartest breeds!

[Fluffypants]

ahh . . . I know the "bully breeds", but did not realize when they said "pit bull" they meant all bullies. Here in NY (general population, average Joe, me), when you say pit bull, you mean just pit bull, not the others.

In that case, it's much more serious than I originally thought!

[corgimom]

Does anyone know if they ever found that greyhound, Vivian, after the Westminister show last year?; I think it was last year. She escaped in the airport from her crate?

Also, when we moved here and got new homeowners insurance, they asked me what type of dog I had and if it had ever had bit anyone. A lot of companies won't insure ones' home if they have a "pit bull", or an Akita or a Chow, just as they won't insure people that have trampolines...they don't want to take the risk.

[glencorgi]

Originally Posted by sweetlychee

I don't know too much about other breeds but I have heard that corgis are pretty smart and rank one of the smartest breeds!

That's true, but reality is the general public is better off with dumb dogs - they are much easier to live with. I've run into one too many people who complain about their corgi doing - pick A, B or C and believe just because it is a smart breed it should automatically know it isn't or is supposed to do whatever. When I mention, the *T* word (training) I get this reaction

Look at Milo - he's already got you trained and manipulated into feeding him people food. A less bright dog would eat whatever is put down before it.

Debbie

[glencorgi]

Vivi: Not found yet, to my knowledge, but there have still been sitings I believe. <http://www.infodog.com> has a link to a website devoted to her with current updates.

Also, when we moved here and got new homeowners insurance, they asked me what type of dog I had and if it had ever had bit anyone. A lot of companies won't insure ones' home if they have a "pit bull", or an Akita or a Chow, just as they won't insure people that have trampolines...they don't want to take the risk.

Another example of breedist mentality and how inaccurate it is. Toy breeds, Goldens and Cockers I believe all have higher bite report incidents than the above mentioned breeds. I can get the stats, if anyone is interested.

Debbie

[sweetlychee]

Hahaha. He manipulated me for sure but he did not train me. I train HIM - fetch, walk, stand, etc. He doesn't train me.

A less bright dog might sound good but I'm sure they won't be alert in protecting you or waking you up in case there's a fire. Also, a dumb dog is a DULL dog. I prefer something more in par with my intelligence. If I wanted a dumb pet, I could have gotten a hamster. I treat Milo as a family so he should have spunk, energy, and smarts.

Dumb dogs are not entertaining. If Lassie was dumb, you think that would have been a hit?

[corgimom]

Lassie,

one of my most favorite shows as a kid....I cried many times watching that show when she got hurt or lost.

Deb,

I remember when I lived in Nebraska and the director at the Humane society where I lived had said they had the highest incidences of bites from Cocker Spaniels. I think insurance companies are looking at the breeds I mentioned as these big large dogs and having the means of "taking down a person and possibly mauling them to death also"