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09-17-2006, 09:59 PM

Deb, I think you are right. It would be easier for us Pem owners to adjust to a Cardigan, rather than the Cardigan owners adjusting to a Pem.
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09-17-2006, 10:11 PM

Sorry, I guess what I meant was that if you love corgis, maybe you'd like to get to know pems and cardigans.....
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09-17-2006, 10:19 PM

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Sorry, I guess what I meant was that if you love corgis, maybe you'd like to get to know pems and cardigans.....
NOW, that one I can go with. Just be sure one is ready for what they are getting into with either breed.

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09-17-2006, 11:06 PM

Lets say Debbie, that you and I agree to disagree in reference to Pem traits with regard to their actions when caused to become excited or stressed and also in your assessment that Pems are not also of a teckel background as part of their formation towards the modern Corgi.
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09-18-2006, 07:05 AM

Wow, thank you all for the great information (agreeing or not agreeing). We love are little man Koda (a Pem) so much that we are thinking of getting another corgi, but just to change it up we are thinking of maybe a cardigan. We live in up up state NY and really do not see many corgi and I have never seen a cardigan up here so I think it would be nice to have one. I am very fortunate to be able to bring my dog or dogs to work but must be very carefull with their tempermants. I work in the super luxury hotel feild with rooms ranging from $650-$2500 a night, and my dogs to have interaction with the guests and their dogs if I bring them. So far Koda has been great he absolutely loves everyone and gets very excited to meet new humans and dogs; however, he is sometimes a bit to excited especially with the other dogs and can become a little overbering with them. He seems to have no concept or care for his small size or how large the apposing dog is. So I am wondering if possibly a Cardigan would also be a good fit in this situation, but a little less excitable than Koda.
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09-18-2006, 07:43 AM

Debbie:

I read your threads with much interest - you described Chip to a T and you are absolutely correct - if Chip doesn't like somebody then beware. I will say that I took him to the flea market Saturday and this lady picked him up and he was not happy. He kept looking at me as if to say - come on Mom rescue me and he didn't take his eyes off from me. He likes lots of attention but don't pick him up. Next time if this occurs, I will just say no or take him away from whoever.


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09-18-2006, 08:08 AM

Michael,

could you post your source in regards to the Teckel background in Pems?; surely you must have something in print in regards to that.



Deb, I agree with Bonnie in the way you described a Pems personality.

Only once has Cody let me know by his bark that a strange person we had stumbled upon on our walk did not sit well with him. Normally, 99% of the time, he is willing to greet anyone that comes along and almost seems insulted that they pass him by without so much as a "Hello". He will stop in his tracks and look at them as if to say "Hey, I am your friend, did you not see me?"
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09-18-2006, 08:28 AM

Linda:

That is so funny - Chip does the same thing too. It has got to be a pem's personality - It lights up your life. You should have seen Chip performing in Lowe's Friday night. Too funny and he had everyone laughing and wanting to pet him. Of course, he wouldn't have won a Good Citizenship Certificate but people just loved it. He was rolling upside down and carrying his leash in his mouth parading around like he was the owner of Lowe's.


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09-18-2006, 08:32 AM

Was Chip applying for the official spokesperson job?

Very cute
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09-18-2006, 08:45 AM

He would make a good greeter!


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Lets say Debbie, that you and I agree to disagree in reference to Pem traits with regard to their actions when caused to become excited or stressed
So Michael, explain to me why when I arrived at my sister's yesterday and 3 year old blue merle Cardigan Mr. Bear came bounding to the fence to say HI!, he did a happy circle of "I'm glad to see you," lifted his leg on a nearby fence post and scratched the ground to leave "big" tracks - all in his greeting? Isn't that the same thing you are describing as a Pem "trait?" We want talk about the manner of greeting her Saint Bernard offered.

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and also in your assessment that Pems are not also of a teckel background as part of their formation towards the modern Corgi.
IF the Teckel ancestory were common to both breeds, then why the extreme difference in phenotype/looks between Mon or his daughter Fancy and Rozavel Red Dragon for example? Now the Teckel background would have been introduced during the short time period when the interbreeding of the two breeds occurred, that I acknowledge. I can see more similarities in overall "looks" today between the two breeds, than in the early corgis.

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09-18-2006, 09:59 AM

I have a 1 1/2 year old male Pem and a 4 month old female Cardi. We've been a family almost 2 months. Boy, it seems longer..... what does that say????

Debbie(Glencorgi) said:
Pembrokes believe the world is a party just for them; Cardigans wait for the invitation to a great party.

Cardigans look before they leap; Pembrokes run off a cliff and then figure a way to get out of it.

Pembrokes will run with scissors; Cardigans don't.

Nature vs nurture? That's what I had heard and what I was expecting. Well so far, all bets are off. Lulu's breeder told me Lulu was the most mellow puppy in her litter. We thought that would be a good match with Tucker. To date, they are two peas in a pod.

The first week when visitors came Tuck did his usual run as fast as he could to say hello, jump up, insert toungue in guest's mouth, give lots of smooches, then roll over on back and wait for tummy rub. Lulu would straggle behind, stare at guests, then wait to be picked up (no one could resist) and smooched all over. That lasted for all of a week. Now anytime they see a person, known or unknown, it's a race to see who can get there first, who can be more obnoxious and jump higher to give kisses, etc. Ughhhhh! I tried so hard to break this habit from Tucker and now I have 2 doing it.

Lulu is trouble waiting to happen. She has the most mischeivous face when she's looking to get into something. I don't think she's bored, it's like an idea crosses her mind and "how do I do it?".

Tucker is known at Day Care for instigating trouble with his pack of 3-4 other dogs. When the sitter catches on and corrects him he gets a look on his face of how to distance himself from the trouble. Never is he contrite!!!

Lulu is apprently doing the same thing. Only when trouble starts, she runs and stands directly under the sitter's dog (she's still small enough to be a perfect fit).

I will say when she is tired, she is as mellow as can be. She turns into a limp rag doll. But that is pretty rare.

I was also told about differences between male and female temperaments and so far I'm not seeing much difference.

So not a whole lot of insight to share. If there are inherited differences between the breeds, so far it seems living together and the monkey see-monkey do thing has them acting pretty similar.

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09-18-2006, 10:21 AM

As I read more of these posts just thought I'd toss out the "why" of getting a Cardi as a 2nd dog. I had a very hard time getting a Pem 2 years ago. I was the kind of person a breeder would not want to give a puppy to. I was single, worked full time, and had never had a dog. If I had a nickel for everytime I heard "you can't handle a Corgi" I could endow Corgi Aid!

I wanted a Pem and it was all about