Barn2 is getting to be quite aggressive - Page 2

Artos · 10-26-2006, 02:58 AM

Thanks. Will try that with the boy.

MissGambler'sMommy · 10-26-2006, 03:45 AM

In researching, and doing a vast amount of reading, on the Corgi breed, I easily recall, and take more seriously, items that are repeated. One of these items is that you have to be very careful in punishing and training the Corgi. They do not take punishment well at all, to say the least. So I would suggest on top of all the other excellent advice you have been given here to watch your actions very carefully, the Corgi may be picking up on signals from you or those around you. What you may see as firm control could be seen as something else from the Corgi, and you know how they love to challenge! One of the hardest problems that I have with my corgi is stopping her from having the last "word" in an argument.

Artos · 10-26-2006, 04:12 AM

Haha. True. They DO love to have the last bark.....

Its hard to punish Barn. He must have been frightened by people in his very early puppyhood (before I got him) because he would cringe in fear when I raise my voice or my arm to threaten him. It breaks my heart to see that so I am rather soft with him....But when I am firm with him, he would quit fooling around with his teeth (on my arm) and his growls(under his breath)....

Maybe Barn has picked up some signals from me that I don't really want an obedient, sweet boy....but a naughty, challenging boy.....and he is growing up to be such! Hmmmm....

MissGambler'sMommy · 10-26-2006, 04:21 AM

Just put my check in the mail, Artos! Seriously, though, If you dog does have past issues with someone else, then you will probably always be the one paying for them. They do live in the now, but the past can resurface at any time, And, yes, your dog can sense that you just want a good time buddy ( I know this firsthand from Miss Gambler) but they really do appreciate, and need, that firm hand of reason, so balance is the key.

Artos · 10-26-2006, 06:17 AM

Yup and woof!

xlauren9 · 11-24-2006, 03:25 PM

I have had problems in the past with my second pem girl, Roxxi. She is perfectly normal until she meets MOST other strange dogs. We have a lot of friend's dogs come visit for playdates, so this was obviously frustrating. Being that my fiancee and I are avid watchers of The Dog Whisperer, we decided to see if we could overcome this at home. We opted to use her gentle leader headcollar, and confront the problem simply by having Roxxi spend plenty of time with Murphy, a friendly boxer/pit cross who comes to visit us pretty often. I kept Roxxi on a short lead, in a sit, and distracted/corrected her whenever she showed any sign of aggressive behavior. She got a short tug, or a tap on the side whenever she wasn't "calm-submissive" and by the end of the evening, i was able to let her walk around, sniff, and interact with Murphy without acting up at all.
I would like to do this same thing at the dog park, however people ther aren't always as cooperative as we would like them to be, so for the time being, she doesn't go to the dog park. It's soooo sad though, because she was just as well socialized as our other 2 girls, and she handled the dog park very well for her first year and a half or so... This is all relatively recent for her. She has improved a great deal since we began confronting the problem though.

Michael Romanos · 11-25-2006, 12:28 AM

Taylor gets on very well with almost every dog and breed and might growl at the odd pup who is over zealous. But Taylor does not like Boxers and I would never deliberately take him too close to a Pit Bull or any of the Bull-type breeds apart from the English and French Bulldogs. So there are some breeds of dogs - usually much larger than a Corgi, that a lot of Pems do not wish to be associated with. Maybe you should take a mental note of what your Roxxi gets along with and which breeds she doesn't.

xlauren9 · 11-25-2006, 11:39 AM

It's not so much certain breeds... It's pretty random. Not necessarily large, small, male, or female. In the past she's flipped at pretty much any dog that has shown interest in her. If they try to sniff her, she's had enough. If anything, she has been worse with the overexcited toy breeds that try to sniff her butt. She has gotten much better now. She can be trusted offleash at home with all of her friends outside, and we can take her to play with her bloodhound cousins.

glencorgi · 11-25-2006, 12:12 PM

Sounds like she just doesn't appreciate rude dogs invading her personal space.

Debbie

MissGambler'sMommy · 11-25-2006, 04:15 PM

Lauren: You made a great comment, about how things are getting better since you confronted the problem. I've had my head buried in the sand for a few years now(my husband is the sane dog owner), but since I joined this site and have been interacting with members and asking questions, I've been confronting some problems. Most recently, food aggression, and after trying some tricks that members here advised, I am happy to say that I can move her food bowl now, something I could never do before. Confronting the problem is probably the best advice that I can give, or be given.

Chip's Mom · 11-25-2006, 04:25 PM

MGM - That is terrific news. A big congratulations to you and Miss Gambler.

Michael Romanos · 11-25-2006, 04:41 PM

On many occasions, Corgis off-leash behave considerably better, often in perfect hamomy, with other dogs than when confronting them on leash. Recently when a Border Collie cross initiated an attack on Taylor, I immediately let go of Taylor's leash and Taylor flipped over on his back and the fight stopped with Taylor unhurt. By the way Taylor was not passive when the mixed breed dog attacked, nor would I expect him to be. Corgis are not toy dogs afterall.

Chip's Mom · 11-25-2006, 05:21 PM

Michael:

I would be scared to death if a dog tried to attack my Chip. I would immediately pick Chip up. That happened to us when we were visiting NYC with Digger. This big dog ran right towards Dig and my son stepped in front of Dig and I quickly picked him up and gave his owner a dirty look when she came to retrieve her dog.

corgimom · 11-26-2006, 04:26 PM

Bonnie,

I would have done the same thing you did. If another dog tried to attack Cody, my first response would be to pick him up and to get out of the situation. I would not even think to let him off his leash.

11-25-2006, 11:39 AM	#23 (permalink)
xlauren9 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Lancaster, Pennsylvania Posts: 11 Images: 3	It's not so much certain breeds... It's pretty random. Not necessarily large, small, male, or female. In the past she's flipped at pretty much any dog that has shown interest in her. If they try to sniff her, she's had enough. If anything, she has been worse with the overexcited toy breeds that try to sniff her butt. She has gotten much better now. She can be trusted offleash at home with all of her friends outside, and we can take her to play with her bloodhound cousins. __________________ Lauren: Mommy to Abbie, Roxxi, and Dundie

11-25-2006, 04:25 PM	#26 (permalink)
Chip's Mom Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Northeast TN Posts: 2,243 Images: 3	MGM - That is terrific news. A big congratulations to you and Miss Gambler. __________________ Bonnie A Good Home, Loving Family and Three Loyal Corgis at my feet - I am truly Blessed.

11-25-2006, 05:21 PM	#28 (permalink)
Chip's Mom Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Northeast TN Posts: 2,243 Images: 3	Michael: I would be scared to death if a dog tried to attack my Chip. I would immediately pick Chip up. That happened to us when we were visiting NYC with Digger. This big dog ran right towards Dig and my son stepped in front of Dig and I quickly picked him up and gave his owner a dirty look when she came to retrieve her dog. __________________ Bonnie A Good Home, Loving Family and Three Loyal Corgis at my feet - I am truly Blessed.

10-26-2006, 02:58 AM	#16 (permalink)
Artos Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Singapore Posts: 85 Images: 14	Thanks. Will try that with the boy.

10-26-2006, 03:45 AM	#17 (permalink)
MissGambler'sMommy Banned Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Francisco Bay area, but commute to Las Vegas, with Miss Gambler, for work Posts: 431 Images: 17	In researching, and doing a vast amount of reading, on the Corgi breed, I easily recall, and take more seriously, items that are repeated. One of these items is that you have to be very careful in punishing and training the Corgi. They do not take punishment well at all, to say the least. So I would suggest on top of all the other excellent advice you have been given here to watch your actions very carefully, the Corgi may be picking up on signals from you or those around you. What you may see as firm control could be seen as something else from the Corgi, and you know how they love to challenge! One of the hardest problems that I have with my corgi is stopping her from having the last "word" in an argument.

10-26-2006, 04:12 AM	#18 (permalink)
Artos Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Singapore Posts: 85 Images: 14	Haha. True. They DO love to have the last bark..... Its hard to punish Barn. He must have been frightened by people in his very early puppyhood (before I got him) because he would cringe in fear when I raise my voice or my arm to threaten him. It breaks my heart to see that so I am rather soft with him....But when I am firm with him, he would quit fooling around with his teeth (on my arm) and his growls(under his breath).... Maybe Barn has picked up some signals from me that I don't really want an obedient, sweet boy....but a naughty, challenging boy.....and he is growing up to be such! Hmmmm....

10-26-2006, 04:21 AM	#19 (permalink)
MissGambler'sMommy Banned Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Francisco Bay area, but commute to Las Vegas, with Miss Gambler, for work Posts: 431 Images: 17	Just put my check in the mail, Artos! Seriously, though, If you dog does have past issues with someone else, then you will probably always be the one paying for them. They do live in the now, but the past can resurface at any time, And, yes, your dog can sense that you just want a good time buddy ( I know this firsthand from Miss Gambler) but they really do appreciate, and need, that firm hand of reason, so balance is the key.

10-26-2006, 06:17 AM	#20 (permalink)
Artos Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Singapore Posts: 85 Images: 14	Yup and woof!

11-24-2006, 03:25 PM	#21 (permalink)
xlauren9 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Lancaster, Pennsylvania Posts: 11 Images: 3	I have had problems in the past with my second pem girl, Roxxi. She is perfectly normal until she meets MOST other strange dogs. We have a lot of friend's dogs come visit for playdates, so this was obviously frustrating. Being that my fiancee and I are avid watchers of The Dog Whisperer, we decided to see if we could overcome this at home. We opted to use her gentle leader headcollar, and confront the problem simply by having Roxxi spend plenty of time with Murphy, a friendly boxer/pit cross who comes to visit us pretty often. I kept Roxxi on a short lead, in a sit, and distracted/corrected her whenever she showed any sign of aggressive behavior. She got a short tug, or a tap on the side whenever she wasn't "calm-submissive" and by the end of the evening, i was able to let her walk around, sniff, and interact with Murphy without acting up at all. I would like to do this same thing at the dog park, however people ther aren't always as cooperative as we would like them to be, so for the time being, she doesn't go to the dog park. It's soooo sad though, because she was just as well socialized as our other 2 girls, and she handled the dog park very well for her first year and a half or so... This is all relatively recent for her. She has improved a great deal since we began confronting the problem though.

11-25-2006, 12:28 AM	#22 (permalink)
Michael Romanos Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Silverstream (near Wellington, the capital of NZ) Posts: 4,902 Images: 2	Taylor gets on very well with almost every dog and breed and might growl at the odd pup who is over zealous. But Taylor does not like Boxers and I would never deliberately take him too close to a Pit Bull or any of the Bull-type breeds apart from the English and French Bulldogs. So there are some breeds of dogs - usually much larger than a Corgi, that a lot of Pems do not wish to be associated with. Maybe you should take a mental note of what your Roxxi gets along with and which breeds she doesn't.

11-25-2006, 12:12 PM	#24 (permalink)
glencorgi Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Piedmont Triad, NC Posts: 2,417 Images: 3	Sounds like she just doesn't appreciate rude dogs invading her personal space. Debbie

11-25-2006, 04:15 PM	#25 (permalink)
MissGambler'sMommy Banned Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Francisco Bay area, but commute to Las Vegas, with Miss Gambler, for work Posts: 431 Images: 17	Lauren: You made a great comment, about how things are getting better since you confronted the problem. I've had my head buried in the sand for a few years now(my husband is the sane dog owner), but since I joined this site and have been interacting with members and asking questions, I've been confronting some problems. Most recently, food aggression, and after trying some tricks that members here advised, I am happy to say that I can move her food bowl now, something I could never do before. Confronting the problem is probably the best advice that I can give, or be given.

11-25-2006, 04:41 PM	#27 (permalink)
Michael Romanos Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Silverstream (near Wellington, the capital of NZ) Posts: 4,902 Images: 2	On many occasions, Corgis off-leash behave considerably better, often in perfect hamomy, with other dogs than when confronting them on leash. Recently when a Border Collie cross initiated an attack on Taylor, I immediately let go of Taylor's leash and Taylor flipped over on his back and the fight stopped with Taylor unhurt. By the way Taylor was not passive when the mixed breed dog attacked, nor would I expect him to be. Corgis are not toy dogs afterall.

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11-26-2006, 04:26 PM	#29 (permalink)
corgimom Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 3,199	Bonnie, I would have done the same thing you did. If another dog tried to attack Cody, my first response would be to pick him up and to get out of the situation. I would not even think to let him off his leash.