Rescue Definitions

[glencorgi]

As David's thread on Bubba should be a celebration, which unfortunately words were misread and misinterpreted and cast a palor over it, I decided to post a response here.

Once again, words mean things and have definitions (one would think a writer would be more conscious of this fact). A rescue dog has a specific definition, one that Bubba does not meet. In this case, Bonnie would also have to say she "rescued" Chip and Dale as they came from the same breeder. It is just as ludicrous for you to say Taylor was rescued from Lesley. To say one rescued a dog from a breeder sends a lot of negative implications and connotations about that breeder. Ask AJ or Cindy (other breeders on this forum) how they are going to feel and react if someone they place a puppy or a retired showdog says they rescued it from them. I know for sure *I* would be issuing a correction should anyone use that term on a puppy I placed with them.

A rescue dog is one that through NO fault of its own finds itself in need of a new home - death, moving don't want to/can't take the dog with us, dog doesn't like baby, we're having a baby and don't have time for the dog, tired of trying to keep dog in fence, got a new puppy, dog is sick and don't want to pay the vet bills, kid left for college and parents are stuck with dog they don't want, we're retired and want to travel and don't want to be tied down by the dog, working too many hours and isn't fair to dog, just redecorated and the dog doesn't match the couch anymore, etc., etc. and so on..... Bubba did not "need" a new home, his breeder felt he would be better off with a home of his own where he could have one on one attention. There is a difference, a BIG difference.

Debbie

[Michael Romanos]

It's all very well being high and mighty, but if one feels that they have "kind of" or "sort of" rescued a puppy/dog, then so be it.
Where Peggy falls completely flat and where Debbie has flattened out alongside, is that the member who started the particular thread had actually QUALIFIED her/his statement. A kind of thing (qualify) I often do as well, only to be stupidly rubbished by a few who don't use their noggin.
There are many reasons to rescue a dog and they need not conform to the Peggys and Debbies of this world. Not long ago we had a silly discussion about a member using the abbreviation of Pemb for Pembroke and Debbie scolding the member for using an incorrect shorten version for Pembroke. Debbie said Pem or Pemmie (sic) are OK but not Pemb. I ask you, who says any are Ok or not OK. Who really cares!

[Chip's Mom]

Debbie

I do agree with you about the term "rescue" however, I feel that correcting people's threads on every occasion is wrong - completely wrong and there is a right way to correct and a wrong way. Unfortunately, some people use the wrong way very often without regard to peoples feelings or any of the other content that was posted in the thread. I have not read one comment by certain people as to how beautiful Bubba is or how fortunate that these two paired up together or what a difference it made in their lives all I have read is negative criticism for a misplay in words - maybe I missed something. It is not just Colcolt's thread that this has happened with but alot of other threads too. If God has given a person the knowledge about certain topics then I would hope they would share their knowledge in a compassionate, encouraging sort of way without tearing people down or making them look ignorant as so often happens. Whenever a person starts a thread, they run the risk of having negative comments posted to it but a person that gives the appearance of taking pleasure from posting negative comments is not an asset to any forum in my humble opinion. I will also add that I have great respect for your knowledge and opinion and you will answer the person's questions or opinion in a considerate way.

[pat_m]

Thank you for moving this discussion onto another thread....

[glencorgi]

Originally Posted by Michael Romanos

It's all very well being high and mighty, but if one feels that they have "kind of" or "sort of" rescued a puppy/dog, then so be it.

None of what I am about to say has anything to do with David and Bubba.

Rescue is soooo chic and in these days that it has become the "only approved" way for someone to acquire a dog in many circles. To admit to buying a dog or puppy from a breeder is so politically incorrect, you wouldn't believe how some can be chastised for doing so. Among some the only approved means to acquire a pet is rescue one and I've had applications from individuals who lived in neighborhoods where that was almost a requirement of their homeowner's association. There is such a saturation of this message that it permeated so much of the thinking in US society, it could be likened to a successful brainwashing program.

Feelings are one thing - they're neither good nor bad, they just are - well feelings. That doesn't make them correct or accurate or factual. Terminology is important, especially to those who are in a "field" and definitions do matter.

Where Peggy falls completely flat and where Debbie has flattened out alongside, is that the member who started the particular thread had actually QUALIFIED her/his statement.

Some of us have been involved a little more intimately than might be generally known in David's quest for a corgi and the beginnings of his life with Bubba. Bonnie of all people, should have taken offense to him describing Bubba as a rescue of any sort.

A kind of thing (qualify) I often do as well, only to be stupidly rubbished by a few who do use their noggin.

I'm having trouble remembering when you've qualified anything Michael. However, I'll have to fess up and give you credit, you've found us out ... some of us actually DO use our noggins, that's why you do get called on things.

There are many reasons to rescue a dog and they need not conform to the Peggys and Debbies of this world.

Reasons for rescuing are far different than actually rescuing and I can give you about 400 corgi rescuers who will beg to differ with you. IF I take it out to general rescue, all breeds, mixes, cats, etc. there are 1,000's of rescuers who will beg to differ with you.

Not long ago we had a silly discussion about a member using the abbreviation of Pemb for Pembroke and Debbie scolding the member for using an incorrect shorten version for Pembroke. Debbie said Pem or Pemmie (sic) are OK but not Pemb.

Had it been a new corgi pet person, I would not have said anything. AJ is not an average pet person, she's in the dog fancy and a respected member of it. In the dog fancy there is an accepted dog speak, jargon and language. To an extent, each breed has what might be called its dialect. As AJ is a respected peer in this world we share, I made a correction in "dialect" because it can matter and sometimes matter very much.

I ask you, who says any are Ok or not OK. Who really cares!

Who says what is okay? Breed specialists who pre-date either you or me. And I find just a smidgen of hypocrisy in attacking or being so nonchalant about terminology. Who was it that was going to insist the corgi world use his newly (which there was nothing new about it at all) coined "correct" term for more than two corgis? Anyone remember a "crew" of corgis?

Debbie

[fogebotom]

Thank you Debbie! Yes to add to your comment, I would be absolutely offended if a person that I placed one of my own dogs with, said that they had rescued it from me, the breeder. That really brings me down to a level with the byb and millers that produce puppies without a care or concern for their ultimate well being. I alway take the best interest of my dogs into consideration when placing them. Regardless if I ask for a set $$ or in my older dogs, ask for the cost of their altering, they are never rescued from me.

I also do rescue/foster/transport and currently have a dog that we adopted from a legit GSD rescue. So many so called rescues out there, that yes, rescue seems to have taken on a life of it's own and has lost some respect with some breeds. Like those that go out and "save" dogs from the auctions and then claim that they rescued them. In some aspects yes, but in many it only provides funds for the seller to produce more. Rescue is a vital force when not abused and many of us have seen the happy and the sad end of this mission.

Once again, it seems that we all need to be more careful how we refer to items on this list.


Cindy, the crew and the 6 pack

[chips dad]

who cares what term you all use the fact is david is enjoying bubba and just wanted to share some of the joy with you and all you can do is nit pik have a nice day al
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