Loose hair eliminator

[Michael Romanos]

An apparently American product is now available on the market called a FURMINATOR which helps eliminate loose hair from long and short haired coats of dogs and costs around $39.

Furminators are not like any other brush or comb but gets rid of loose hair like no other tool and leaves a shiny and healthy topcoat. It is said that Furminators decrease shedding by up to 90% for about 4-6 weeks.

The Furminator with its ergonomic grip handle, has a 4 inch stainless steel edge for removing loose undercoat hair.

If any one wants more info, contact me.

[Louwants]

The Furminator is fantastic!!!!! I have one for Duncan and Chloe, and you would not believe how much hair comes off when you brush them. When I get done, it looks like I have ANOTHER corgi in my backyard. I had the Shed Ender, which is really like the Furminator, but you use it like a comb. Did a great job, but, you could only use it one direction. The Furminator is designed like a rake, and much more convenient to use.

The best price is on Ebay if you keep searching. I think I bought the small size, so that I could use in on my cats also. Takes a few extra brushes with the dogs, but I wasn't about to buy two of them for each set of pets. Also, don't be taken in by the ads saying for that there is one for cats and one for dogs......they're the same. I HIGHLY recommend this to all the corgi owners, or owners that have dogs with that undercoat.

[glencorgi]

If you'll refresh your memory by going through some of the grooming threads I think you'll find the Furminator has been mentioned several times here on Go Corgi.

Debbie

[Chip's Mom]

Here is the link for anyone that wants more info.
http://www.furminator.com/

[BannaOj]

I like a shedding blade better than the Furminator. They gave some Furminators out for free if your dog was entered in Westminster, which was how I got one.

Maybe it is better for a Pembroke undercoat compared to a Cardigan's, but I don't think I would have bought it on my own. I guess it is useful if you are grooming your dog indoors and need to contain the hair because it is easier to control the mess with the furminator. But outside the shedding blade works better in my opinion.


Shedding blade example:
PetEdge: Master Grooming Tools Shedding Blades

AJ

[Peggy]

Originally Posted by BannaOj

Maybe it is better for a Pembroke undercoat compared to a Cardigan's,

Pembrokes have the same type coat as Cardigans. The undercoats are the same so if it works on one it should work on the other.

Peggy

[Michael Romanos]

The Furminator is ideal for all long and short haired breeds.

[BannaOj]

I do not have a Pembroke. However my experience with the Pembs vs. the Cardis in the show ring is that their coats are significantly different. Yes, they are both double layered coats, however the Pembs have significantly more furnishings on their rears, and their coat texture overall is much more Spitz-like than a Cardi coat.

For an exaggerated example, you can, (if you so choose) during show-grooming, poof an average show pemb out, so that it resembles a pomeranian,(then you smooth it all back down, to hide faults) You can attempt the same thing with an averages show Cardigan, but it takes a lot more grooming product, and you don't achieve nearly the same amount of "poof" as your average show Pembroke.

However I believe there are much wider variations in Cardi coats by bloodlines than there are in Pembroke coats.

Either way, my personal experience with using the Furminator on Cardi coats, is that I'd rather use a shedding blade outdoors unless it is raining, and then I'd use the Furminator indoors to contain the mess.

[Peggy]

Originally Posted by BannaOj

I do not have a Pembroke. However my experience with the Pembs vs. the Cardis in the show ring is that their coats are significantly different. Yes, they are both double layered coats, however the Pembs have significantly more furnishings on their rears, and their coat texture overall is much more Spitz-like than a Cardi coat.

I have both breeds here. And I've owned another cardi in the past.

Cassidy's coat (my current CWC) is a very tight coat. And no she does not fluff up like my Pems do. On the other hand Kelsey (PWC) also has a tight coat and won't fluff well either.

Laddie (CWC - bridge 2001) had a coat you could fluff.

IMO, it depends on the dog and the genetics. There are more and more cardis in the ring now days who do have the longer, plusher and even glamour coats. They fluff up just like most Pems.

And as far as the Furminator goes, that's for shedding dogs, taking out he undercoat. Both breeds have the same soft undercoat.

For an exaggerated example, you can, (if you so choose) during show-grooming, poof an average show pemb out, so that it resembles a pomeranian,(then you smooth it all back down, to hide faults)

Now, wait a minute, I have yet to see a pem that was fluffed up enough to look like a Pom. That would have to be a fluffy!

And yes, of course you would brush the hair into the way it normally lies.

You can attempt the same thing with an averages show Cardigan, but it takes a lot more grooming product, and you don't achieve nearly the same amount of "poof" as your average show Pembroke.

Like I said, IMO, depends on the dog. Kelsey needed just as much "product" and work to poof up as Cassidy does.

However I believe there are much wider variations in Cardi coats by bloodlines than there are in Pembroke coats.

For the most part I do agree there. I've also heard one long time respecte breeder complaining that people were trimming fluffy cardigans and showing them.

Either way, my personal experience with using the Furminator on Cardi coats, is that I'd rather use a shedding blade outdoors unless it is raining, and then I'd use the Furminator indoors to contain the mess.

My prefrence is for a fine toothed comb. I've tried many things over the years, shedding blades (too messy IMO), zoom groom, undercoat rakes, etc. and I keep going back to my comb. I think it's all personal prefrence.

Peggy

[Michael Romanos]

Pems coats vary greatly in texture , in thickness and in length.

[glencorgi]

Okay, I think something we often forget to say, even though we are aware of it or perhaps we just assume it is acknowledged is; Cardigans and Pembrokes have (or are supposed to have) different coat textures. Both are double coated breeds, soft undercoat, and harder guard hairs - wash and go, weather resistant applies to both of them, but there is a difference in texture. Cardigan coat "... the outer hairs slightly harsh in texture. Pembroke coat "... with a coarser, longer outer coat." (emphasis in both mine).

Debbie

[BannaOj]

As a result of this, I've re-read both AKC standards. To me the Pemb coat shows the Spitz influence while the Cardi coat shows the Tekel influence, but, as written, the "ideals" in the standards sound very close to each other. I don't know how the two coat standards are written in other countries though. The "dense as it is double" bit in the Cardi standard intrigues me.
Here they are:

Cardigan Corgis

Coat
Medium length but dense as it is double. Outer hairs slightly harsh in texture; never wiry, curly or silky. Lies relatively smooth and is weather resistant. The insulating undercoat is short, soft and thick. A correct coat has short hair on ears, head, the legs; medium hair on body; and slightly longer, thicker hair in ruff, on the backs of the thighs to form "pants," and on the underside of the tail. The coat should not be so exaggerated as to appear fluffy. This breed has a shedding coat, and seasonal lack of undercoat should not be too severely penalized, providing the hair is healthy. Trimming is not allowed except to tidy feet and, if desired, remove whiskers. Soft guard hairs, uniform length, wiry, curly, silky, overly short and/or flat coats are not desired. A distinctly long or fluffy coat is an extremely serious fault.

Pembroke Corgis

Coat
Medium length; short, thick, weather- resistant undercoat with a coarser, longer outer coat. Over-all length varies, with slightly thicker and longer ruff around the neck, chest and on the shoulders. The body coat lies flat. Hair is slightly longer on back of forelegs and underparts and somewhat fuller and longer on rear of hindquarters. The coat is preferably straight, but some waviness is permitted. This breed has a shedding coat, and seasonal lack of undercoat should not be too severely penalized, providing the hair is glossy, healthy and well groomed. A wiry, tightly marcelled coat is very faulty, as is an overly short, smooth and thin coat. Very Serious Fault--Fluffies--a coat of extreme length with exaggerated feathering on ears, chest, legs and feet, underparts and hindquarters. Trimming such a coat does not make it any more acceptable. The Corgi should be shown in its natural condition, with no trimming permitted except to tidy the feet, and, if desired, remove the whiskers.