Dry Skin

[Chip's Mom]

Dale has very dry skin and I gave him a bath in oatmeal shampoo but his skin is still dry. No Michael - it was not a shower I gave him a bath in the kitchen sink I am going to buy some lipaderm as I gave my bottle away but I saw in a catalog where you can buy a skin conditioner for dry skin and wondered if anyone had use anything like this on their pups before?

[jprechel]

We use the oatmeal shampoo on Ace and just a regular puppy conditioner. We haven't noticed dry skin but we live in a pretty humid climate if that makes a difference. Btw, how could we tell if Ace does have dry skin?

[Michael Romanos]

Personally, I don't know about dry skin, but I do know about dry coats on Corgis. Pups coats will look dull and dry. The real process of getting a gleam in the coat is based on what you feed you dog. - and this won't usually develop until the Corgi is at his/her junior stages. These days, good quality shampoos should not dull or dry a Corgi's coat - at least for anymore than a day. It wasn't too many years ago and one had to bath their Corgi up toi a week before a conformation show so that their coat could recover gleam by the time the show came round.

[Peggy]

Originally Posted by Michael Romanos

Personally, I don't know about dry skin, but I do know about dry coats on Corgis. Pups coats will look dull and dry. The real process of getting a gleam in the coat is based on what you feed you dog. - and this won't usually develop until the Corgi is at his/her junior stages. These days, good quality shampoos should not dull or dry a Corgi's coat - at least for anymore than a day. It wasn't too many years ago and one had to bath their Corgi up toi a week before a conformation show so that their coat could recover gleam by the time the show came round.

Puppy coats should not look dull and dry. A dull dry coat is a sign of an unhealthy dog. However, a puppy can have dry skin, it can be a bit flakey. This could be due to many things. One could be what he's eating.

Also, remember that puppies are in growth stages, that means that skin cells are being replaced faster than adult dogs. Dead skin cells show up as flakes. So at times a healthy puppy can have what looks like dry skin. Just brush him more often to help distribute the natural oils more. (And feed him a good food as you've said you were going to do.)

Bathing dogs a week before the show wasn't to get the gleam back it was to get the coat to be less "poofy". Now days, we blow dry and that helps control the coat a bit more. And the "just bathed" look is now considered to be desirable in a show dog.

Peggy

[Chip's Mom]

Thanks Peggy for the info. He is doing alot better. Bath Sunday in a good oatmeal shampoo, changed his puppy food to Natural Balance and brush him every evening. Also I stir up his fur every morning. I bought some all natural oatmeal pet spray today that can be used often and I put some of that on him tonight and will again in the morning. The flakes are alot less so hopefully in another week they will be gone. Both ears are now up after I did a 24 hour taping. He also went to the Vet's for check up and shots on Monday so he has had a very busy four days and he gets his lower canines pulled on Friday. That is a whirlwind week for one little corgi pup. I can't believe how much I have learned from Go Corgi in the past year with Chip and I still have so much more to learn. Thanks Guys.

[Michael Romanos]

Peggy - I bed to differ on all counts. But I will concede that pups coats are more dull than they are dry all other things being equal.

[Peggy]

Originally Posted by Chip's Mom

Thanks Peggy for the info. He is doing alot better. Bath Sunday in a good oatmeal shampoo, changed his puppy food to Natural Balance and brush him every evening. Also I stir up his fur every morning. I bought some all natural oatmeal pet spray today that can be used often and I put some of that on him tonight and will again in the morning. The flakes are alot less so hopefully in another week they will be gone. Both ears are now up after I did a 24 hour taping. He also went to the Vet's for check up and shots on Monday so he has had a very busy four days and he gets his lower canines pulled on Friday. That is a whirlwind week for one little corgi pup. I can't believe how much I have learned from Go Corgi in the past year with Chip and I still have so much more to learn. Thanks Guys.

Misting with plain water when you brush him will help too. More importantly is a good food. Give him a couple weeks and see if that makes a difference.

Why are you having his lower canines pulled?

Peggy

[Peggy]

Originally Posted by Michael Romanos

Peggy - I bed to differ on all counts. But I will concede that pups coats are more dull than they are dry all other things being equal.

Well, Michael, I'm pretty sure I've seen and/or raised more puppies than you have and well, puppy coats should not look dull. A dull coat is a sick puppy.

Peggy

[ZdogZ]

Bonnie ~
Let us know asap tomorrow how little Dale does.

[glencorgi]

Puppy coats, part of the appearance of being dull has to do with puppy coat's not being "clear" colors like adult coats. Baby red and white Pembroke puppies often look like they just rolled in mud and that's when they're clean. But there is a difference between what I mentioned and a dull dry coat.

Bathing before shows, Peggy is right about that or at least according to stories from some of the senior corgi exhibitors who have been showing before some of us were born.

Debbie

[Chip's Mom]

Peggy - My lil Dale has an overbite. If you do a search here, you will find all the threads and agony I went through with Chip as he also has an overbite but his is severe and I didn't know enough about overbites to get his corrected before his bottom canine almost was through the roof of his mouth so he suffered in silence so to speak for about 7 months. Unfortunately, his vet didn't either. I am having Dale's lower canines pulled tomorrow in hopes of correcting his before it gets severe. If this works, his lower jaw should grow enough so that his adult lower canines will be positioned where they are supposed to be. If not, when he is neutered, I will have those pulled too. It sounds cruel I know but better this then run the risk of having major physical problems that could occur. I did manage to get Chip to a vet dentist before his broke through the bone and he had a root canal which is expensive and the surgery was hard on Chip. I don't want to put Dale through this if I can help it. The breeder gave me pick of the litter because of Chip's overbite and I picked Dale out on New Year's. A week later he had an overbite too. Out of 7 puppies, only Dale had an overbite. The breeder wanted me to choose another puppy and I really tried but I fell in love with Dale's personality and he reminds me so much of my Chip that I had to bring him home. That is where all the drama has come in.

Plans for tomorrow are taking Dale to the Vet's on my way to work and the vet will call me at work as soon as the procedure is finished. I will post then. If all goes well, he will be able to come home around 1:00 so I will post again when I get him home as I will leave work as soon as I get the call and then spend the rest of the weekend babying him.

Dale's coat is looking much better already and feels really soft. It is mostly around his little bunny butt now and not nearly the flakes that he had.

[Sizzledog]

Dry skin... ah, how I know it...

I actually spent 5-6 years as a groomer, and I've seen practically every remedy and product on the market to cure dry skin.

Oatmeal shampoos are not the cure-all end-all. There are different levels of quality, and a low quality oatmeal shampoo won't do much to alleviate dry skin... it's sort of like the craze a couple years ago about lamb in dog food... the myth was that *any* dog food with lamb in it was awesome! But we all know better...


Okay, products that I've seen to work VERY well on dry skin:
1. Espree Luxury Remoisturizer - code name "REMO"... it's amazing stuff. We used it excluisively for our toughest dry skin and brittle coats. Put it on full strength and let it sit for ten minutes, and you won't have flake problems for a looooong time! Don't use it every week though - frequent use at full strength had been known to clog pores. If you're going to use it every week, just dilute it down like per the bottle's instructions... then you should be fine! But initially, put it on *fell strength*!

2. Bark2Basics Skin Remedy Shampoo - anything by B2B is great, but the skin remedy shampoo is specially formulated for flaky skin and even smells nice!
http://wgroom.com/catalog/product_in...roducts_id=299

3. Lipiderm - use it religiously! After awhile, the coat won't need it... but it took one of my dobes 18 months to be able to be flake-free without it.

[Cheyenne60041]

Hi,
I found out by trial and error with my Rottweiler and Corgi that raw eggs once a week really help out the skin issue.
corgi - 1 egg
rottweiler - 2
Good luck!

[Peggy]

Originally Posted by Chip's Mom

Peggy - My lil Dale has an overbite.
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I am having Dale's lower canines pulled tomorrow in hopes of correcting his before it gets severe. If this works, his lower jaw should grow enough so that his adult lower canines will be positioned where they are supposed to be. If not, when he is neutered, I will have those pulled too.

Ok, just wondered. I've had dogs with overbites, we call it an overshot jaw.

If he were mine and I'd wait and see if the teeth are really going to be a problem. They weren't with the dog I had. If they are you can have them out then.

And chances are his jaw is not going to grow enough to make it correct.

I certanylly won't condem you for doing this, but I still think I'd wait a bit longer.

Peggy

[Chip's Mom]

Peggy Thanks for your input I appreciate that. It is nice to know that others have had a pup with overbites. The breeder had already clipped his bottom two canines so it was better that they were pulled. His bottom canine had already caused some irritation to the top gumline and even though they were clipped they were catching onto the ridges on the roof of his mouth. Pulling the bottom canines was recommended by the vet dentist in Knoxville - I had my vet do it because it was way cheaper. We will see what happens between now and neuter time. I am planning the neuter for the Friday before Memorial Day if I can arrange that time with the vet. If I have his canines pulled then, he will only be under anesthesia one time instead of twice. It is a wait and see situation though.