Tap water for thirsty Corgis

[Peggy]

Originally Posted by Michael Romanos

Chocolate can kill people just like it can do to dogs, if they (people) went on a chocolate binge such as I previously described.

It is unlikely that a human would eat enough chocolate to make them sick or kill them. It's the theobromine in the chocolate that is toxic to dogs.

And if you want to go along those lines a human could drink enough water to make them sick too. (Even pure, uncomaninated water.) Again, very unlikely.

Unlike Peggy, I think we should be concerned and look for the best alternatives if possible.

I didn't say we shouldn't be concerned or look for the best alteranatives. Shoot, my water comes from an artesian well or from a mountain stream (piped to allow for filling of conatiners). However, I don't think we need to panic over this. As the reports her stated (and we've been getting them on all our news channels for over two days now), even ground water and aquifers can be contaminated. And most tests won't tell you if there is drugs in the water, it has to be a test that looks for them specifically.

By and large the US has safe water and people don't need to be overly concerned.

Peggy

[glencorgi]

Chocolate segue OT:

Is chocolate good for you? - Nutrition Notes- msnbc.com
Recent research shows that chocolate can provide natural health-promoting substances called flavonoids.
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Dark Chocolate Is Healthy Chocolate
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Chocolate: Good, And Good For You, Researchers Keep Finding ...
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CNN.com - Food Central - Recipes - Great news -- chocolate is good ...
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BBC News | Health | Chocolate 'is good for you'
Researchers say chocolate may help prevent cancer and heart disease.
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Boosting Brain Power -- With Chocolate
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Boosting Brain Power -- With Chocolate

Debbie

[Michael Romanos]

I don't know any figures but I have heard of people who have died from overdosing/overeating on chocolate. It really goes without saying - death from a chocolate binge. What a way to go, eh? I think I'll stick to the odd choc bar and choc icecream.
Now that we have been alerted to water contamination that may be adversely affecting dogs - in particular the smaller breeds - we should look at taking measures that will help protect the health of our Corgis. I well recognise antibiotics and we certainly don't want any of that stuff in our water for dogs or for people. Apart from the drugs that should not be in the water, there is the chlorine and the fluoride that are deliberately mixed into a lot of tap water supplies and these can be considered anti-dog agents.

[Peggy]

Originally Posted by Michael Romanos

Now that we have been alerted to water contamination that may be adversely affecting dogs - in particular the smaller breeds - we should look at taking measures that will help protect the health of our Corgis. I well recognise antibiotics and we certainly don't want any of that stuff in our water for dogs or for people. Apart from the drugs that should not be in the water, there is the chlorine and the fluoride that are deliberately mixed into a lot of tap water supplies and these can be considered anti-dog agents.

And how do you propose we go about this?

FYI, most of America has flouride it their water. You're going to have to fight the health depts. and dentists to get it out.

Peggy

[Corgis4me]

Originally Posted by Michael Romanos

Yes, infant humans will be greater affected than older humans with contaminated water.
Chocolate can kill people just like it can do to dogs, if they (people) went on a chocolate binge such as I previously described. They say that 1.5kg of milk chocolate or 140gr of baking chocolate can kill a 20-25kg dog. Corgis are at 12-14kg.

Can I overdose on grapes, since those can be toxic to dogs also?

Originally Posted by Michael Romanos

Now that we have been alerted to water contamination that may be adversely affecting dogs - in particular the smaller breeds - we should look at taking measures that will help protect the health of our Corgis.

Well, we may have to keep them indoors also, as the pollutants they breathe in by being outdoors can't be helping them either.

[glencorgi]

Originally Posted by Michael Romanos

Taylor is also lucky that we have a little stream running through my property with the source of the stream is a forest/bush reserve just up the road.

Does the stream pass through any other properties before it gets to your place?
What would happen if a "neighbor" used fertilizer on their lawn for example? Wouldn't the chemicals run off into the stream when it rains?

Debbie

[Chip's Mom]

If someone has a dairy farm, there is likely contamination to the springs and creeks that run by. The manure drain off is a contaminant. That is why they started stockpiling manure and using special holding areas instead of spreading it in the fields like they used to years ago.

[theimagunter]

Hey Lou Ann,
you find the water with the Prozac let me know ... I have a Mini Doxie that could really use it! Harley (my Corgi) has no need... she's an ANGEL!!!!!
What do you all think about deep well water? That is what we have ... we live in the sticks ... Take out means, you call ... and they tell you when you can come and get it.
Thelma

[Michael Romanos]

I don't know how many grapes, raisins or sultanas it would take to render the possibility of being damaging to a person's health. Most certainly large quantities of wine or too regular quantities of wine made from grapes can be a killer for humans - especially white wine. But out of balance and out of kilter of any food presents the liklihood of damaging a person's health.
Water from almost any creek, stream or river is a possible danger for humans and dogs. The only exception world wide is water directly from a cold water spring at the point of the spring.
Someone mentioned keeping Corgis indoors becaise of air pollution. The exhaust fumes from fuel-driven vehicles is damaging to people and even more so, dogs. If one lives in a city-type area or near a busy highway/motorway, your dog suffers the consequences. China are making moves to stop vehicle pollution in and around the areas where the 2008 Olympics are staged during the duration of the event and prior to the start of the Olympics. The world's best marathon runner will not compete in this event at the China Olympics because of the air pollution - instead he will compete in the 10,000 metres at the main stadium track.
I keep Taylor from walking drectly behind a vehicle's exhaust when the motor is running.

[Peggy]

Originally Posted by theimagunter

What do you all think about deep well water? That is what we have ... we live in the sticks ... Take out means, you call ... and they tell you when you can come and get it.

The news reports said it was in the aquifers and in the ground water too.

However, everyone remember they only tested about 4 cities. So it's unknown where else it is or how bad.

Peggy

[Michael Romanos]

I am not optimistic that water pollution of a concerning degree is absent from almost any water supply for home taps.

[jakort1]

Originally Posted by Michael Romanos