creaking joint/bone

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    creaking joint/bone

    Pip's had some creaking/popping sound from his right front shoulder/leg (maybe neck) area. I can't really pin down the location, but it sounds like my old joints do. He has had no limping, acts and moves normally, and the only other symptom is he has yelped a time or two when someone has touched him in the area. We were at the vets 4/27 (this started about 1 week prior) and the vet didn't find anything unusual, but didn't x-ray or anything since he has not been limping or having difficulty/reluctance walking or running. This started after a yelp during play last month and I think he hurt something, but don't know what or if it is severe. I'm wondering (worrying, maybe needlessly?) if I should take him back to the vet and what in the world could be causing this. Any thoughts would be appreciated!

    EDIT: BTW it's not "creaking" as often as it was when we were at the vets, but he did yelp last night when a neighbor let him climb on her lap and tried to pet him there...which makes me wonder if it's maybe his neck.
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    Pip's had some creaking/popping sound from his right front shoulder/leg (maybe neck) area. I can't really pin down the location, but it sounds like my old joints do. He has had no limping, acts and moves normally, and the only other symptom is he has yelped a time or two when someone has touched him in the area. We were at the vets 4/27 (this started about 1 week prior) and the vet didn't find anything unusual, but didn't x-ray or anything since he has not been limping or having difficulty/reluctance walking or running. This started after a yelp during play last month and I think he hurt something, but don't know what or if it is severe. I'm wondering (worrying, maybe needlessly?) if I should take him back to the vet and what in the world could be causing this. Any thoughts would be appreciated!

    EDIT: BTW it's not "creaking" as often as it was when we were at the vets, but he did yelp last night when a neighbor let him climb on her lap and tried to pet him there...which makes me wonder if it's maybe his neck.
    Sorry to hear this about Pip; if this started almost a month ago and he yelped also last night when being touched there, then I would go back to the vet and have x-rays taken - have you tried touching him this morning in that area and what does he do?
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    Not this morning. Last night, when it happened I did check him. I felt all along his right front side (applying a bit of pressure) and nothing...I didn't feel anything abnormal and he yelp, squirm, or anything else.
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    Pip's had some creaking/popping sound from his right front shoulder/leg (maybe neck) area. I can't really pin down the location, but it sounds like my old joints do. He has had no limping, acts and moves normally, and the only other symptom is he has yelped a time or two when someone has touched him in the area. We were at the vets 4/27 (this started about 1 week prior) and the vet didn't find anything unusual, but didn't x-ray or anything since he has not been limping or having difficulty/reluctance walking or running. This started after a yelp during play last month and I think he hurt something, but don't know what or if it is severe. I'm wondering (worrying, maybe needlessly?) if I should take him back to the vet and what in the world could be causing this. Any thoughts would be appreciated!

    EDIT: BTW it's not "creaking" as often as it was when we were at the vets, but he did yelp last night when a neighbor let him climb on her lap and tried to pet him there...which makes me wonder if it's maybe his neck.

    Maybe a pinched nerve? An x ray will show things like arthritis and bone spurs but won't show pinched nerves or things like that. Usually with a disk problem the dog will limp or show some weakness in a leg.

    Have you tried glucosomine? If not I'd get him started on that at the very least.

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    Maybe a pinched nerve? An x ray will show things like arthritis and bone spurs but won't show pinched nerves or things like that.
    Would it show up on an MRI or would it need to be really inflamed to see? They weren't very concerned, since he's walking/running normally and there was no obvious pain/discomfort/swelling, when he was examined.
    Have you tried glucosomine? If not I'd get him started on that at the very least.
    No, but I think I will. What are the opinions on Nupro Joint Care, people glucomine tablets, or salmon oil helping the most? Do you have to give Vit C, to help absorb the fish oil? If they are equal, fish oil would be my preference, although I'm not so sure (KISS works best for me) if you have to add the vit C.

    It does seem to be occuring less, with time. Last night I only heard the "creaking" twice. I did physically check him out again, when I got home and no yelping or anything. I'm guessing 6-8 weeks for it to heal. Does that sound about right?
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    Sounds about right on the 6-8 weeks healing time frame. Do you have a canine chiropractor in your area? They might be able to help or acupuncture.

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    Do you have a canine chiropractor in your area? They might be able to help or acupuncture.
    I don't know, but can check.
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    Would it show up on an MRI or would it need to be really inflamed to see?
    I don't know if it would or not. Sorry.

    No, but I think I will. What are the opinions on Nupro Joint Care, people glucomine tablets, or salmon oil helping the most? Do you have to give Vit C, to help absorb the fish oil? If they are equal, fish oil would be my preference, although I'm not so sure (KISS works best for me) if you have to add the vit C.
    They all do different things. Vitamin C helps with the healing process. Glucosomine helps with the fluid between joints. Salmon oil helps with lots of stuff, autoimmune things, arthritis, etc. If you have to choose go with the salmon oil and glucosomine.

    It does seem to be occuring less, with time. Last night I only heard the "creaking" twice. I did physically check him out again, when I got home and no yelping or anything. I'm guessing 6-8 weeks for it to heal. Does that sound about right?
    Oh, good that it's occuring less and less. And yes, 6-8 weeks sounds about right to me.

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    our little corgi has arthritis big time and with synoviG3 joint supplement u can't believe how she is, and Duke my dauthters 5 yr old aussi has a hip that pops out and u should see how good he is on this stuff...it is great. look around on line and u can find good prices.
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    If you have to choose go with the salmon oil and glucosomine.
    I saw your post, too late. I bought some Nupro Joint Care (seemed easiest and I wasn't sure if I should add vitamin C or not) last week. I will try the salmon oil and glucosimine (I'm guessing you are talking about glucosimine people tablets?) when it's finished. Adding it to his food was a bit of a problem, as he refused to eat the meal that didn't have it. Now, I mix it with warm water to make a gravy and give it to him as "dessert" directly after he finishes dinner and he is finishing all meals. I figured it would be ok, because it will still all get mixed in his stomach with his food.

    It's puzzling to me what is causing this. I've not heard a dog's bones/joints make this sound before, even ones with arthritis, and it doesn't sound good...especially for his age. Like I posted earlier, he's had no limping or reluctance to walk/run, but it just does not seem right to me. I worry, especially after hearing about the corgi who had a broken neck vertebrae, knowing about the joint disc problems which can occur, and that darn dwarfism. I'm giving it 8 weeks from our last vet appointment and, if it's still occuring, I'm making another appointment.

    our little corgi has arthritis big time and with synoviG3 joint supplement u can't believe how she is, and Duke my dauthters 5 yr old aussi has a hip that pops out and u should see how good he is on this stuff...it is great. look around on line and u can find good prices.
    Thanks for the tip. I haven't heard of it, but will check it out.
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    I'll have to keep that in mind. I did look at a couple of sites and this one has the lowest regular price:
    Lambert Vet Supply | Vet Supplies & Flea Control for Dogs, Cats & More

    I've been giving Chloe some chews I found at the petstore the last couple of months, and I think I want something better. As soon as things get better here at home though. Hubby laid off and I'm STILL on medical leave.
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    I have had excellent results with synflex for pets it is a liquid beef flavored glucosamine/chondroitin combo which is more easily absorbed. you can buy it online. It also has yucca which is great for inflamation. Lucy has a arthritic knee and since I have started the synflex result were immediate no more limping. Lucy is only six years old and i was noticing some cracking in the joint too but we have had her knee checked out with xrays and by several different vets including a specialist and they can find no injuries just the arthritis which showed on an xray. corgis are prone to arthritis at a much earlier age because of their build and lucy has crooked legs probably due to poor breeding. I also give sardine oil and a seperate vit c supplement primarily for her allergies but i do not think it is necesarry for the glucosamine to work better. i think some capsules of glucosamine are thoght to be better absorbed with vit c (ascorbic acid) and it is sometimes already in the glucosamine usually it will say ascorbic acid on the ingredients list. that is why I prefer the liquid because I know it will be absorbed much easier that a capsule. I have also tried accupunture and it has worked great too! Lucy loves it she becomes so calm and relaxed during the treatment. Good luck with Piper!
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    I 'think' a pinched nerve would show up on an MRI... but an MRI will coast you over $1,000... its not cheap at all. We wanted to do an MRI on Zero if his seizures continue but even we don't get a discount and we're in the vet field.
    I've also had good luck with synoviG3. OR there is a people version at costco of glucosamine/chondroitin that is a fruity flavored liquid that you drink or mix with juice- we had a dog come into the boarding kennel at work for years and he was on it. I believe he got a tbs a day mixed with his food... much cheaper and worked really well.
    This is it: http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product...se=&lang=en-US
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    Thanks to everyone for all the info. Whatever it is, it does seem to be lessening. These things that can't be diagnosed drive me nuts! Thanks for understanding and all of the helpful tips!
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    Reviving an old topic here...Pip had surgery to extract his tooth today. His vet found a very small sebaceous cyst (I can't even find it) on his shoulder, in the area where he yelped when a few people touched him there. I wonder if maybe this could have been the problem, touching it the wrong way, instead of his joints. It's seems pretty coincidental to me.
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