Urinating frequently

[DarkSephiroth]

Thank you, that is all very helpful. I called the vet today, but he was performing surgery and not available to talk. The vet tech suggested I go buy some chicken to boil, rather than using baby food for the bland diet.

[Peggy]

Originally Posted by DarkSephiroth

Thank you, that is all very helpful. I called the vet today, but he was performing surgery and not available to talk. The vet tech suggested I go buy some chicken to boil, rather than using baby food for the bland diet.

That works too. Sometimes it's just easier for me to use baby food. Chicken is probably more digestable though. And maybe he'll like the chicken.

I still suggest the ensure too.

Peggy

[DarkSephiroth]

His appetite seems to be back in full force, but I'm not indulging it for now. Every time I grab a plastic ziploc, he comes over to me and stares with that Corgi look and sits right in front of me, ready to perform something for a morsel... When I make his food, he does the kibble dance...and eats his food rather quickly. His energy is back, so I am going to do my best to keep his activity down. I don't let him on the big bed, I took away the dog stairs. I carry him up and down my inside stairs when I need to take him out, but I let him go up and down the 5-6 steps outside down to the grass.

[DarkSephiroth]

I switched Corgi over to plain boiled chicken / rice. He's still having diarrhea indoors... but his energy level is much better.

[chrismunkrn]

The diarrhea will pass once his GI tract starts processing food normally again.
When Sooner had diarrhea, Blizzard cried for chicken and rice and barked until he got his own bowl. Blizzard thinks it's better than his kibble. I made extra and warmed it a bit for them.
I'm glad Corgi's improving! =)

[DarkSephiroth]

Corgi started urinating frequently again... and his diarrhea seems to be getting worse if anything. He passed a bloody stool just now. I called the vet just now, going to see what he thinks to do.

[glencorgi]

Poor lil' guy cannot catch a break can he?

How often is frequently?

Debbie

[DarkSephiroth]

Just got back from the vet.

Apparently, Corgi was dewormed for Roundworm, but he had both Roundworm AND Hookworm (I don't know how they missed that), along with his Heartworm. So now he got dewormed for Hookworm as well, and I got Buster fecal tested since they've been in the same places... and I got slapped with a $200 dollar vet bill to add onto all the other charges from Corgi's Heartworm treatments. Good news: Buster is negative on the heartworm test. I will call back tomorrow to find out the results of the lab's returns on Buster's fecal test. Both dogs were dewormed.

This is the first situation where I've been somewhat displeased with the vet. I understand it was same-day last minute appointment, but I didn't get to see the doctor. All the dealing I did was with the vet tech, who relayed messages to me.

Also, I thought there was a general dewormer that dealt with most worms, like both roundworms and hookworms, or am I wrong? I asked the vet tech, and he said they deal with each type of worms individually because it's more effective that way... Is that true? I really don't see how they missed the hookworms in his fecal, and how they saw it so fast this time..? I really feel like I've been left in the dark in this situation...

[Peggy]

Originally Posted by DarkSephiroth

Also, I thought there was a general dewormer that dealt with most worms, like both roundworms and hookworms, or am I wrong?

You're right. Panacur is one. And IMO, that is what they should have used.

I asked the vet tech, and he said they deal with each type of worms individually because it's more effective that way... Is that true?

Well, most vets don't do that. And no it isn't really the most effective way. Using something like Panacur is usually the norm. (Panacur (fenbendazole) is used to treat hookworms, roundworms, tapeworms, and whipworms in dogs.)

Did they ever look for whipworms? If they haven't, well, IMO, they still should.

When they did a fecal they should be looking for ANY and ALL worms. And they should have treated for all of them. IMO, if he's got hook and round worms he could very well have whipworms or tapeworms too. I'd be asking about the Panacur for BOTH dogs. If one has worms it's highly likely they both do.

And no wonder he still has diahrrea if they're not getting all the worms.

Peggy

[glencorgi]

Did they tell you which de-wormer they used?

Panacur (Fenbendazole) is effective against roundworms, hookworms, whipworms, certain tapeworms and parasites called strongyles and strongyloides. Fenbendazole is also effective against certain parasites of the bronchial tree and lungs (Aelurostrongylus and Paragonimiasis).
Fenbendazole (Panacur®)

Often more than one treatment is necessary to make sure all life stages of the parasites are covered.

Strongid (Pyrantel Pamoate (Strongid T, Nemex)) is another dewormer:
Pyrantel pamoate is effective against numerous parasitic worms:

* Roundworms of dogs
* Roundworms of cats
* Hookworms
* Stomach worms (Physaloptera species)
It is not effective against whip worms or tape worms
Pyrantel Pamoate (Strongid T, Nemex) - VeterinaryPartner.com - a VIN company!

What is Droncit?
Droncit is a prescription wormer and internal parasite medication for cats and dogs, used to control tapeworms. "Wormer" is a term that describes medications used to treat internal parasitic infections, usually of the digestive tract.
Droncit ® Tablets (Brand)

Those are just a few off the top of my head.

I noticed he wasn't treated for whip worms. The dewormer that was used might have covered them, but maybe not.

Debbie

[Peggy]

Debbie's right on the "certain tapeworms". I wasn't sure it covered tapeworms so did some more checking. And other sites say "certain tapeworms" so panacur might not cover some tapeworms.

Peggy

[P_J]

Oh no, Corgi has heartworms? That is horrible, I'm sorry to hear that! Poor kid can't catch a break! Funny that I'm just reading this because I actually thought about him today. We have had a puppy coming in for a month that has diarrhea and we can't find out why. We did parvo test, giardia test and fecal float- all negative. I did a direct smear and swore I found a giardia cyst. Did a gram stain and found only normal bacteria in it. Done de-worming of every kind (We use Pyrantel aka Strongid for our routine de-worming but this pup has also gotten a Panacur power pack dose and drontal plus) One thing to think about is having your vet send out a stool sample to a labratory. The fecals can have a giardia option with it too which is not bad to add. That test thru our lab was $49. We are also sending a sample for a fecal culture which is $90 something. I hope something comes back- and a board certified pathologist will be at the other end of your samples which is nice to know.

I don't agree with clients only seeing a technician. You don't pay to see them, and even if it was a last minute late night call, you paid, and you deserve to see the vet. Client service!!

[DarkSephiroth]

Corgi is down to 21.2 lbs. from his equilibrium weight of around 24-25 lbs. I can feel his ribs right under his fur.. His diarrhea has not subsided, but in fact gotten worse. He's now passing at least one diarrhea every 1-2 hours. His appetite is normal, but should I not feed him for 24 hours and maybe get him back started on his kibble? By when should the diarrhea subside if he was dewormed? I have a bad feeling they didn't catch whatever it is bothering his stomach.

[chrismunkrn]

Corgi is one sick little dog. I agree...they may be missing something. And I also feel you should have been seen by the vet. A vet tech with experience may have an extensive knowledge base and be able to answer your questions but you are paying for vet knowledge and experience and Corgi is seriously ill.
I am glad Buster was tested and negative for heartworms and I'm glad he was treated.
Get well wishes are sent your way.

[DarkSephiroth]

This is honestly getting ridiculous. I can't get any sleep. After about 2 hours, my room will have at least 5 piles of diarrhea, some being bloody. Corgi is clearly not getting better, maybe even deteriorating. I already owe the vet $250.00 and I have no more money in my bank account. They obviously can't figure out what's wrong with him, I have no money to make any more vet visits for at least another week. I'm just at my wits end now. If he continues this way, I can't see him living much longer. He's already lost about 4 lbs., and passing 20+ puddles of diarrhea every day isn't going to help at all. ANY IDEAS on what to do?