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Old 10-26-2006, 07:45 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I don't believe in miniature corgis or dogs of any breeds. Something must have been terribly wrong to produce that type of dog. Also, it seems like dwarfism to me and it doesn't seem healthy or normal. Stick with a normal corgi because there's no need to be finicky when the corgi breed is already so wonderful and delightful.
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Old 10-26-2006, 08:11 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Sweetlychee, not sure if you are aware of this or not, but corgis ARE dwarf breeds. There are several achondroplastic breeds and it can occur in any breed. On the Corgi Rescue list we've seen dwarf Rotties and Golden Retrievers labeled as corgi mixes.

Miniature Maltese? Now how much smaller than 4 to 6 pounds does someone need a dog to be?

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Old 10-26-2006, 10:55 AM   #18 (permalink)
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i thank you all for your information. when i referred to 'bloodlines don't need to be attached', i meant that I do not care if there are champion bloodlines. I would love to have a purebred, but haven't had much luck with breeders and a lot of the breeders around the city are far in the country.

i am glad you all helped calm my suspisions and thoughts of a miniature corgi. I had seen a liter advertised in our paper and thought that would be great since I was moving into a complex from a house.

I just need a smaller/regualar sized corgi. My little girl is about 18 inches at the shoulder and 35 lbs. i love her bunches, but she is too big and has also been claimed as my parents dog now.

Again, I thank you all and will look into the information provided further.
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Old 10-26-2006, 12:17 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Wow, Debbie! I didn't know corgis are achondroplastic! I had to look up that word. So you are saying they were breed to be dwarfs? Well, now it explains why so many call their corgis shorties. I can't help it but corgis are by far one of the cutest short dogs I have ever seen.

In the beginning, I loved dachsunds. But, I wanted a dog with more substance. Than I saw a corgi and had no tail. It was love at first sight. Dachsunds look more fragile but corgis are more rough and bouncy! Goooo corgi!
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Old 10-26-2006, 03:18 PM   #21 (permalink)
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May I suggest getting a new dog from a Corgi rescue rather than a low-cost breeder? I used to breed, show and train and I don't know many reputable breeders that are also bargain breeders. It costs money to produce healthy, sound, puppies.

I got my sweet, wonderful, funny, much beloved Liam from a rescue 3 months ago. He is 10 months old today. Everyone who meets him says he's beautiful, and they can't believe I got him from a rescue. I 'know' he isn't show quality because has his dewclaws, his feet point out sideways, his pasterns are not right, and he has an 'unusual' topline. But I LOVE this dog. He cost less monetarily than a bargain breeder's dog.

He's 23 pounds and about 11" tall. I measured because I want to get an ILP and compete in Obedience, Agility and Herding. (He liked sheep a lot.) so he's in the standard. And I knew what I was getting because he was already made. He was crate trained, housebroken, neutered, HW tested, and had his shots. He was such a bargain.

It is sad to hear that the "conformation" corgis are getting bigger. But it may be a phase. 30 years ago I was showing Goldens on the West Coast. I had a terrific 23 1/2" dog (Ch, UD, JH, WCX, VCX, Can UD) who moved like a dream. He was shrimpy next to the big dogs with the big handlers. They had tons of coat and weighed 20 pounds more than my dog. Obviously my dog would never special against them. But we stayed with our program, showed to breeder (not all-breed) judges, and bred the kind of dog that could "get in and out of a boat". Now, many generations later, the dogs are closer to the size and weight standard. So, keep reaching, teaching and preaching the standard and it will come back.

And don't get me started on Goldendoodles!
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Old 10-26-2006, 04:41 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I would not touch a "mini/teacup" corgi breeder with a 40 foot pole. I also would not pay money for even a purebred dog that was not bred from two champion parents (unless the dog was from a rescue or shelter). Not even if it had papers (and the only ones that I think are reputable on this continent are AKC/UKC/CanKC). Not even if it had "champion lines." The only thing that matters to me when I go to a breeder (besides the obvious proper care/health tests/temperament/etc.) is that the parents themselves have been finished. Preferably while owned by that person who bred them.

But that's me. >o.o<
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Old 10-26-2006, 05:10 PM   #23 (permalink)
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The word corgi is Welsh for "dwarf dog". Just thought that I would share, and you guys probably already know this.

Also: It is my humble opinion that there is a reason why the puppies described as mini-corgis on puppy sites look so tiny, and dare I say it, unhealthy. They probably are the runt of the litter and are probably sickly, but some owner decided to get cutesy with the wording in the ad to sale the puppy. Someone here said that they would not touch one of these breeders with a 40 foot pole, well make my pole 50 feet!
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Old 10-27-2006, 07:24 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Wow, Debbie! I didn't know corgis are achondroplastic! I had to look up that word. So you are saying they were breed to be dwarfs?
Yep, sure am. They are true dwarf breeds, so you own one of these " Also, it seems like dwarfism to me and it doesn't seem healthy or normal." There are a number of dwarf breeds - Scottish Terriers, Dachshunds, Bulldogs, Basset Hounds. In another thread some time ago I provided a link to more dog breeds.

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Well, now it explains why so many call their corgis shorties. I can't help it but corgis are by far one of the cutest short dogs I have ever seen.
Corgis are medium sized dogs on those short legs. Pembrokes especially are too "cute" for their own good and too many people get caught up in the looks only "cute little dog" syndrome and aren't prepared for the tough "little" working dogs that they really are. The corgis get out of control - just think of some of the things you've dealt with with Milo as an example, owners are in over their head and that's when they get dumped at shelters or rescue is called in.

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In the beginning, I loved dachsunds. But, I wanted a dog with more substance. Than I saw a corgi and had no tail. It was love at first sight. Dachsunds look more fragile but corgis are more rough and bouncy! Goooo corgi!
Doxies were bred to go after badgers and to dig them out. Those front assemblies have plenty of substance (in the standard Dachshunds at least) and IF you were to ever look at their teeth, fragile is not an adjective I woud use to describe the breed.

Cute as a motivator for buying corgis has landed a lot of them in harm's way.

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Old 10-27-2006, 03:03 PM   #25 (permalink)
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I agree with the crowd. Besides, calling a corgi miniature or teacup makes them sound froofy and pitiful. These are dogs that were built with a muscular frame to dodge flailing hooves and round geese and duck out of the pond, not sit on some emperor's lap and exist merely to pet. Although our dogs may be as spoiled as the next's, they certainly retain their ability to do what they were bred for.
In regards to the dwarfism, I once read that Corgi's are among 1 of 3 original breed lines to bred for dwarfism. I can't remember the other original 2, for some reason I think it's the basset hound and dachund. That means the dandy dinmonts and scotties must have originated from one of the others? I don't know...Just thought I throw my 2 cents. ~Amanda
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Old 10-27-2006, 03:28 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Pembrokes especially are too "cute" for their own good
That about sums it up except they know how to play on that cutsey thing. After having a corgi in the family for awhile, one expects all breeds of dogs to be that way and sorry it doesn't happen. On the other side of the coin is some people can't handle our little corgis personalities. It's like the elderly man in obedience class - his wife has the cutest little cockapoo and she is up to her cockapoo antics and the elderly man can't understand why she behaves that way. Let alone that she is only 4 1/2 months old. Anyway, I can't imagine life without a corgi. They do liven things up.
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