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jlmac · 02-01-2006, 02:07 PM

Hi all,

I'm jlmac and i'm very happy to have found this site. I've had 2 corgis for 10 years. Actually the mom for 10 and her son for 8. They are Pembrokes and generally wonderful dogs. The male, Jack is a very lovable dog, actually more so than her mom. Unfortunately I did not participate in obedience training and all they know is what I've tought them. I've got a huge aggression problem with Jack. I should probably start a new thread over in the behavior forums but just wanted to say hi.

jlmac

Jane Austen · 02-01-2006, 02:16 PM

Welcome Jlmac,
We can all learn from the questions that others have about their animals. I love my Duchess and think she is the greatest dog living but she has some issues too. That goes into what she is. My seven year old came to me from a rescued episode. I would love to be able to ask her previous owner why she acts as she does, and what she was like as a puppy?
I have picked up a lot from the experience of other members of this website.
Hope there is someone out here that can help you with your dog's behavior problems. Jane

Michael Romanos · 02-01-2006, 03:13 PM

Hi Jimac
It's very frustrating when you have an otherwise loveable Corgi and he shows aggressive attitudes towards other dogs ( some, most) and maybe doesn't like certain people or little children - and therefore is unpredictable and both he and you and your family suffer undesirable stress and not as many joyful occasions as you would wish.
At eight years old nothing is unachievable. The best thing I can direct you to from here in New Zealand is to say that Jack needs a spurt of tough love and a reward and praise regime, and in this regard, you should read one of two books written by that astonishing American Cesar Milan. Cesar says that the three most important elements for raising a dog are: exercise, discipline and affection - in that order. With an incorrect exercise format being the greatest reason why dogs feel so aggrieved as to misbehave badly. Now that may not be your problem with Jack. But Milan has all the answers and you can find him on a multitude of websites including: www.dogpsychologycentre.com or just do a search on Cesar Milan and you'll find other informative websites.

When I walk my Pem,Taylor in public places, I usually have a happy disposition and carry a smile because he makes me feel so at ease. He loves people especially babies and toddlers, rarely does he get angry or make any kind of negative lunges at other dogs and is not a cat, car or bike chaser. He halts, sits, stays etc on command and we have never attended obedience classes. If this is what you would love to have in Jack, Cesar Milan should definitely help. I only discovered Milan several months ago but his fame is spreading around the world.

jlmac · 02-02-2006, 11:56 AM

Thank you Jane & Michael for the welcome. Michael I will definately start reading everything I can get my hands on to help Jack. It has come to the point where if I can't fix his behavior I will have to put him down. It's a sad thing because I should have been a better trainer for his sake. Oh well, we learn things the hard way.

My wife and I just got a german shepard puppy and Jack really laid into her once. I've had to just separate them so as not to traumatize the shepard.

Jhemphill · 02-02-2006, 01:22 PM

Welcome to the site. As Michael stated in his message Cesar Millan is great with dogs, he has a show on the National Geographic Channel called the Dog Whisperer. If you go to http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/ you will see his show in the banner. If you go to his show on this site it has information that might be helpful to you. He is wonderful and my family watches his show every week. Cesar always maintains that the human is usually the problem with dog's behavior and that they need to make sure that the dog know that they are the pack leader. I hope everything works out for Jack and your family.

Michael Romanos · 02-02-2006, 03:39 PM

The interesting thing about Cesar Milan that on many occasions - probably helps to add extra drama to his show too - he gets to be the very last hope for a wayward dog to be rehabilitated or the owners will be forced or decide to put him/her down. And Cesar will tell you that he has ministered to over 1000 dogs and only two of them were so badly abused that he could not rehabilitate them. So perhaps Jimac needs to bring in a dog behaviour specialist. I had the terrible misfortune to be responsible for my very first Corgi developing a brain tumour and the full effects didn't become apparant until over a year later when he went off the rails. Perhaps Jack has a undiagnosed problem such as this. For instance, has he always been so iimpolite to femaie dogs?

jlmac · 02-03-2006, 04:44 PM

Michael,

I watched Cesar for the first time the other day and was so impressed with him. I was just stunned seeing all his "dogs" just hanging out together. I didn't even know that was possible.

Jack (my disfunctional male corgi) was a good puppy and only started showing aggression at the age of 2. Jack was raised with his mother and a Austrialian shepard male. Basically the problems started when I saw Jack attack the Ausy and I mean visciously. He never attacked his mother but barks constantly when I let them outside like he won't let her run around until he makes it clear that he's boss. Like barking in her face. When the Ausy would get up to outside he'd attack. Then I had him fixed but probably waited too long, it did not stop his aggression. I got a schnauzer (female)when he was 6 (his current age) not 8 as I previously stated. He had shown no aggression whatsoever and they were best buds. She has since died (car). We recently got a female German Shepard puppy and I thought that since she was female that he'd be ok with her. But he laid into her pretty good before I could separate them which I did quickly. Now I keep them totally separated because of the obvious, I don't want to traumatize the puppy or give Jack any chance to hurt her. Another thing about Jack he dislikes children and will run up and bark and snarl and intimidate. Needless to say he is a threat. I still love him, he's a sweety but unfortunately I failed to train him properly. I have a professional alfa dog trainer coming here to analize the situation first hand and give recommendations. Will keep you informed. Thanks for all your comments and interest in the situation.

John

corgimommy · 02-04-2006, 08:51 PM

John,

Hi and welcome!! I am sorry to hear of the issues you and your wife are dealing with, You will find that Gocorgi ..( Michael and Jane..lol) has a lot to offer.. I wish you all the best and wish I could offer some help but unfourtnataly cant..
Erin

Michael Romanos · 02-04-2006, 10:39 PM

A dog can be "boss dog" without resorting to viciously sustained acts. In that respect there is a similarlty to humans - leadership without resorting to violence. One has to look at temperament. This is sometimes an hereditary thing. A dog with a poor temperament is often the result of a parent/s or grandparent/s having similar faults. And the problem therefore lies with the people who breed dogs incorrectly. Go back to the breeders and see what ithat will turn up. A lot of people neuter their male dogs which generally helps dogs to relax more ie become less stressful and less aggressive. That maybe one key measure in Jack's rehabilitation. The other aspect with neutering a male dog is that it lessons the chanches of a dog contracting a cancer or two.

02-01-2006, 02:07 PM	#1 (permalink)
jlmac Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 3	hello Hi all, I'm jlmac and i'm very happy to have found this site. I've had 2 corgis for 10 years. Actually the mom for 10 and her son for 8. They are Pembrokes and generally wonderful dogs. The male, Jack is a very lovable dog, actually more so than her mom. Unfortunately I did not participate in obedience training and all they know is what I've tought them. I've got a huge aggression problem with Jack. I should probably start a new thread over in the behavior forums but just wanted to say hi. jlmac

02-01-2006, 02:16 PM	#2 (permalink)
Jane Austen Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: .Massachusetts Posts: 803	Welcome Jlmac, We can all learn from the questions that others have about their animals. I love my Duchess and think she is the greatest dog living but she has some issues too. That goes into what she is. My seven year old came to me from a rescued episode. I would love to be able to ask her previous owner why she acts as she does, and what she was like as a puppy? I have picked up a lot from the experience of other members of this website. Hope there is someone out here that can help you with your dog's behavior problems. Jane

02-01-2006, 03:13 PM	#3 (permalink)
Michael Romanos Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Silverstream (near Wellington, the capital of NZ) Posts: 4,902 Images: 2	Hi Jimac It's very frustrating when you have an otherwise loveable Corgi and he shows aggressive attitudes towards other dogs ( some, most) and maybe doesn't like certain people or little children - and therefore is unpredictable and both he and you and your family suffer undesirable stress and not as many joyful occasions as you would wish. At eight years old nothing is unachievable. The best thing I can direct you to from here in New Zealand is to say that Jack needs a spurt of tough love and a reward and praise regime, and in this regard, you should read one of two books written by that astonishing American Cesar Milan. Cesar says that the three most important elements for raising a dog are: exercise, discipline and affection - in that order. With an incorrect exercise format being the greatest reason why dogs feel so aggrieved as to misbehave badly. Now that may not be your problem with Jack. But Milan has all the answers and you can find him on a multitude of websites including: www.dogpsychologycentre.com or just do a search on Cesar Milan and you'll find other informative websites. When I walk my Pem,Taylor in public places, I usually have a happy disposition and carry a smile because he makes me feel so at ease. He loves people especially babies and toddlers, rarely does he get angry or make any kind of negative lunges at other dogs and is not a cat, car or bike chaser. He halts, sits, stays etc on command and we have never attended obedience classes. If this is what you would love to have in Jack, Cesar Milan should definitely help. I only discovered Milan several months ago but his fame is spreading around the world.

02-02-2006, 11:56 AM	#4 (permalink)
jlmac Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 3	Thank you Jane & Michael for the welcome. Michael I will definately start reading everything I can get my hands on to help Jack. It has come to the point where if I can't fix his behavior I will have to put him down. It's a sad thing because I should have been a better trainer for his sake. Oh well, we learn things the hard way. My wife and I just got a german shepard puppy and Jack really laid into her once. I've had to just separate them so as not to traumatize the shepard.

02-02-2006, 01:22 PM	#5 (permalink)
Jhemphill Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Raleigh NC Posts: 191 Images: 10	Welcome to the site. As Michael stated in his message Cesar Millan is great with dogs, he has a show on the National Geographic Channel called the Dog Whisperer. If you go to http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/ you will see his show in the banner. If you go to his show on this site it has information that might be helpful to you. He is wonderful and my family watches his show every week. Cesar always maintains that the human is usually the problem with dog's behavior and that they need to make sure that the dog know that they are the pack leader. I hope everything works out for Jack and your family.

02-02-2006, 03:39 PM	#6 (permalink)
Michael Romanos Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Silverstream (near Wellington, the capital of NZ) Posts: 4,902 Images: 2	The interesting thing about Cesar Milan that on many occasions - probably helps to add extra drama to his show too - he gets to be the very last hope for a wayward dog to be rehabilitated or the owners will be forced or decide to put him/her down. And Cesar will tell you that he has ministered to over 1000 dogs and only two of them were so badly abused that he could not rehabilitate them. So perhaps Jimac needs to bring in a dog behaviour specialist. I had the terrible misfortune to be responsible for my very first Corgi developing a brain tumour and the full effects didn't become apparant until over a year later when he went off the rails. Perhaps Jack has a undiagnosed problem such as this. For instance, has he always been so iimpolite to femaie dogs?

02-03-2006, 04:44 PM	#7 (permalink)
jlmac Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 3	Michael, I watched Cesar for the first time the other day and was so impressed with him. I was just stunned seeing all his "dogs" just hanging out together. I didn't even know that was possible. Jack (my disfunctional male corgi) was a good puppy and only started showing aggression at the age of 2. Jack was raised with his mother and a Austrialian shepard male. Basically the problems started when I saw Jack attack the Ausy and I mean visciously. He never attacked his mother but barks constantly when I let them outside like he won't let her run around until he makes it clear that he's boss. Like barking in her face. When the Ausy would get up to outside he'd attack. Then I had him fixed but probably waited too long, it did not stop his aggression. I got a schnauzer (female)when he was 6 (his current age) not 8 as I previously stated. He had shown no aggression whatsoever and they were best buds. She has since died (car). We recently got a female German Shepard puppy and I thought that since she was female that he'd be ok with her. But he laid into her pretty good before I could separate them which I did quickly. Now I keep them totally separated because of the obvious, I don't want to traumatize the puppy or give Jack any chance to hurt her. Another thing about Jack he dislikes children and will run up and bark and snarl and intimidate. Needless to say he is a threat. I still love him, he's a sweety but unfortunately I failed to train him properly. I have a professional alfa dog trainer coming here to analize the situation first hand and give recommendations. Will keep you informed. Thanks for all your comments and interest in the situation. John

02-04-2006, 08:51 PM	#8 (permalink)
corgimommy Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bend OR Posts: 14 Images: 10	John, Hi and welcome!! I am sorry to hear of the issues you and your wife are dealing with, You will find that Gocorgi ..( Michael and Jane..lol) has a lot to offer.. I wish you all the best and wish I could offer some help but unfourtnataly cant.. Erin

02-04-2006, 10:39 PM	#9 (permalink)
Michael Romanos Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Silverstream (near Wellington, the capital of NZ) Posts: 4,902 Images: 2	A dog can be "boss dog" without resorting to viciously sustained acts. In that respect there is a similarlty to humans - leadership without resorting to violence. One has to look at temperament. This is sometimes an hereditary thing. A dog with a poor temperament is often the result of a parent/s or grandparent/s having similar faults. And the problem therefore lies with the people who breed dogs incorrectly. Go back to the breeders and see what ithat will turn up. A lot of people neuter their male dogs which generally helps dogs to relax more ie become less stressful and less aggressive. That maybe one key measure in Jack's rehabilitation. The other aspect with neutering a male dog is that it lessons the chanches of a dog contracting a cancer or two.

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