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Old 03-17-2007, 07:30 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Old 03-17-2007, 07:45 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Peggy - If I have to spell it out here goes - Eukanuba is not an AAFCO approved dog food unless there has been some radical shift in this situation within the last two months or less. Now is that clear.
Do you have a bag of Eukanuba dog food by you ?- What is the statement on the side label about being tested and "substantiated" by the AAFCO?
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Old 03-17-2007, 08:08 AM   #34 (permalink)
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I use Nutro Max wet as a small supplement to the dry food and it was on there! I immediately checked the information for Nutro Max and thank god it was not the can I had but I am not finishing this can that's for sure, I will be at the store tonight getting a different brand that is not on there...yikes!!
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Old 03-17-2007, 08:32 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Okay, just for clarification...it is only the "cuts and gravy" style that is affected right? Did I read that right? I was feeding Dudley a canned version of Purina mixed (not cuts and gravy style) in with his food before I switched to Nature's Recipe (only a few weeks ago). I assume that if he was going to be affected, I would have noticed by now? I now feed him only Nature's Recipe...the potato and fish version and the vegetarian wet food. We are in the slow process of switching Maya as well...she currently eats Nutro. All this stuff makes me paranoid

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Old 03-17-2007, 11:05 AM   #36 (permalink)
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I checked the only pouch of Nutro Natural Choice dinners I have - it is not on the list. I did, however, send the list to my good friend - who often feeds the pouches to get her finicky Lab (I didn't know such a thing existed until I met Lulu!) to eat her food.
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Old 03-17-2007, 01:23 PM   #37 (permalink)
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More on the recall:

This is their specific recalls:



To be specific, It is only Hills cat foods,
1. Science Diet(r) Kitten Savory Cuts(r) Ocean Fish 3 oz. and 5.5 oz.
2. Science Diet(r) Feline Adult Savory Cuts(r) Beef 5.5 oz.
3. Science Diet(r) Feline Adult Savory Cuts(r) Chicken 5.5 oz.
4. Science Diet(r) Feline Adult Savory Cuts(r) Ocean Fish 5.5 oz.
5. Science Diet(r) Feline Senior Savory Cuts(r) Chicken 5.5 oz
*No other Hill's products are affected by this recall.
*Hill's Pet Nutrition, Inc., is taking this precautionary step to protect
the health and well being of your pets. Hill's has received no reported
cases of illness



*P&G Pet Care Announces Voluntary Participation in Menu Foods' Nationwide
U.S. and Canadian Recall of Specific Canned and Small Foil Pouch 'Wet' Cat
and Dog Foods*

Dayton, OH (March 16, 2007) =96 In response to the recent Menu Foods, Inc.
nationwide recall of wet pet foods, P&G Pet Care has announced a voluntary
recall in the United States and Canada on specific 3 oz., 5.5 oz., 6 oz. an=
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13.2 oz. canned and 3 oz. and 5.3 oz. foil pouch "wet" cat and dog food
products manufactured by Menu Foods Inc. Emporia, Kansas plant with the cod=
e
dates of 6339 through 7073 followed by the plant code 4197. This voluntary
recall is part of a larger product recall by Menu Foods Inc., a contract
manufacturer that makes a small portion of canned and foil pouch 'wet' cat
foods for Iams and Eukanuba as well as other non-P&G brands. There have
been a small number of reported cases of cats from the US (none in Canada)
becoming sick and developing signs of kidney failure. The signs of kidney
failure include loss of appetite, vomiting, and lethargy. P&G Pet Care has
received no case reports involving dogs.
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What needs to be remembered here is that Menu is a company contracted to manufacture these foods and not the "scumbags" they were proclaimed to be.

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Old 03-17-2007, 03:30 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Peggy - If I have to spell it out here goes - Eukanuba is not an AAFCO approved dog food unless there has been some radical shift in this situation within the last two months or less. Now is that clear.
So, are you saying that Eukanuba might not be an adequate food?


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Dr Nick Cave said to watch out for packaging that does not says or means approved and passed by AAFCO..
He Did?

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AAFCO is not the be all and end all of things but at least a person unqualfied in canine nutrition, can safely assume that an AFFCO-approved product they are giving their dogs contains everything that it should for the greater benefit of the dog. And as Dr Nick Cave pointed out some other products that have not been subjected to AAFCO testing could also be excellent for dogs. And he mentioned to me Eukanuba in this respect.
You said here that Dr. Nick Cave says Eukanuba could be excellent for your dog and it does not say AAFCO approved or tested on their bag; their statement says "formulated", like the one mentioned below.


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If a package says AAFCO Approved or AAFCO tested and approved or some other phrase that means exactly the same -ie tested and approved, then that should be the case. Biut some dog food manufacturers will have the public believing their food meets AAFGCO standards and requiremnets by fudging the wording. AAFCO Tested does not mean AAFCO approved only that the food may have been presented for scutiny to AAFCO. Meets AAFCO standards is another type of phrase that does not mean AAFCO approved. And there are many others. Is this clear?
I have never seen a dog food where the statement on the back only says it was AAFCO Tested.

What company are you referring to that prints only "tested" on their packaging?

One example of a statement you would see: "Formulated to meet the nutritional level established by the AAFCO Dog Food nutrient Profiles for all life stages"


An example of another type of statement that I have seen is:

"Animal feeding tests using AAFCO procedures "Substantiate" that (name of food) provides complete & Balanced nutrition"; Science Hill foods uses this statement on their packaging.

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Old 03-17-2007, 04:30 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Peggy - If I have to spell it out here goes - Eukanuba is not an AAFCO approved dog food unless there has been some radical shift in this situation within the last two months or less. Now is that clear.
Geez, Micaeal you don't have to get huffy. I just asked for a clarification.

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Biut some dog food manufacturers will have the public believing their food meets AAFGCO standards and requiremnets by fudging the wording.
You know I think they can meet the standards and not be tested. I wouldn't go so far as to say they're fudging on wording.

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Old 03-17-2007, 04:42 PM   #40 (permalink)
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I use wheat gluten to make homemade rye bread in my bread machine and I know one of the two containers must be two years old. I can't tell if it's contaminated as it still looks the same. This has to be the same thing they use in dog food I would imagine. Maybe more light will be shed on this tomorrow.
Just a tip with the heat of summer beating on us. Freeze any grain or nuts to preserve it. I freeze all my grains that I will not be using up in 2 months. I've thrown out too many rancid grains in my day (determined by smell). Gluten is the same. Freeze in baggies or containers so even if it is 2 years old, it is not rancid if stored in the freezer.

I love my bread machine, but living at a mile high tests my baking skills with each season.

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Old 03-17-2007, 05:06 PM   #41 (permalink)
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It's not quite summer here yet, Merrie. In fact, the high today was 48. You know men and cooking and how we think anything we put in the refrigerator or cupboard will last forever. I keep cornmeal in the refrigerator for making cornbread but, baking flour stays in the cupboard. I may have to change my ways about that. I love that bread machine, too. It's products make my mouth happy.
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It's not quite summer here yet, Merrie. In fact, the high today was 48. You know men and cooking and how we think anything we put in the refrigerator or cupboard will last forever.
I wish I did know of men and cooking! But I love my husband for his other qualities. I've discovered I like to be queen of the kitchen and enjoyed letting my dog in when my husband wasn't home. I miss my dog getting my spills! I have less cupboards in this home so I save space with smaller containers of flour in the cupboard and the rest in our chest freezer.

Summer hit this past week but we might get some spring weather next week. The southwest had record highs for the middle of March. No set seasons here. We can still get a snow storm in May!

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Old 03-17-2007, 07:33 PM   #43 (permalink)
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FYI, for those who shop at Petco: since Trevor and the cats both get Nutro Ultra and Natural Choice dry and wet food, I went to Petco this afternoon to replace the canned food I'd bought the other day (even though only one of the cans had an affected date code.)

I noticed that the Petco I go to had pulled ALL of the cans of Nutro, Iams and Eukanuba. I asked the fellow there about it and he said they weren't taking any chances, until they heard otherwise. He further said to bring back any product I currently had at home, receipt or not. So there shouldn't be any propblem returning any canned product you don't feel comfortable keeping. Good for Petco.
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Old 03-17-2007, 09:30 PM   #44 (permalink)
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I was working at PetsMart today. Apparently, they had a news crew out in the store doing a report about recalled pet food. PetsMart has pulled all the Eukanuba, Iams, Nutro, Mixables, Authority, etc. cans from its shelves. There was so much empty space! It seems like the only wet foods still available were some Purina, Science Diet, Mighty Dog, and a couple of others. Cat food was still stocked with plenty of brands except Nutro, Iams, etc.
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Old 03-17-2007, 09:31 PM   #45 (permalink)
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I one of my interviews with Dr Nick Cave he said that Eukanuba had not (yet)sought approval of their products from AAFCO. If they have since well and good. Nick said that some of the Eukanuba range of products are excellent dog food and have all bases covered. He said there are other dog food not offered to AAFCO for approval that could still be good for dogs given on a daily basis.

Yes, the wording is important because all companies can't be trusted and many do try and fudge things. Linda - we went through this before, substantiate means approved if worded in the correct context. If Eukanuba doesn't specifically state approved by AAFCO or word/words to that effect, they are unlikely to have been actually approved. Companies who say that their food follows AAFCO testing systems and formulas (or similar wording) may be just trying to imply approval. In Eukanuba's case, Dr Cave says it is very good (at least some of it, if not all) whether it is AAFCO approved or not. All major dog food companies will be acutely aware of the large mix of vitamins, minerals and nutrients that AAFCO demand.
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