Corgis rank second

[Michael Romanos]

I am pleased to pass on the information that an American canine behavioural expert has rated Pembroke Corgis among the top 20 breeds suitable for families with children. Pem Corgis are ranked only behnd Golden Retrievers.

In aniother piece of imformation, a group of American canine experts consider the following breeds most likely to bite (never to completely trust). These are in no particular order:
Chow Chows
Shar Peis
Akitas
Presa Canario
Siberian Huskies
Jack Russell Terriers
Pit Bulls

[glencorgi]

Originally Posted by Michael Romanos

I am pleased to pass on the information that an American canine behavioural expert has rated Pembroke Corgis among the top 20 breeds suitable for families with children. Pem Corgis are ranked only behnd Golden Retrievers.

Would you provide the name of the canine behavioural expert and site the source?

In aniother piece of imformation, a group of American canine experts consider the following breeds most likely to bite (never to completely trust). These are in no particular order:
Chow Chows
Shar Peis
Akitas
Presa Canario
Siberian Huskies
Jack Russell Terriers
Pit Bulls

Again, sources please. Thank you.

Debbie

[Peggy]

Top Dog Breeds for Families
http://www.petvr.com/index.php/pages...dsforkids.html

This is only the opinion of one site/one person. Other sites I saw didn't list corgis or didn't list them second.

Peggy

[glencorgi]

And the full comments are kind of interesting:
"Pembroke Welsh corgi. At about 25 pounds, the Pembroke Welsh corgi is a popular pet. This stocky short tailed breed needs daily exercise and loves romping with the kids. They are best with older kids (over 6 or 7 years) as some dogs can be bossy and possessive."

Supports what many of us have said about small children.

And the PetPlace Staff which is credited with the article doesn't exactly meet my definition of "canine behavioural expert." Sorry.

Debbie

[Michael Romanos]

The list of the top 20 breeds most suitable for families was not produced by any unqualified staff of any organisation but was channelled through at least one organisation.

[glencorgi]

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Choosing a Pembroke Welsh Corgi

Hardly know where to begin with that. vonWillebrand's Disease was not mentioned as a health concern for Pems, nor were PPM's.

PRA is in Cardigans. Cardigans are no more prone to obesity than are Pembrokes and tend to be easier whelpers than are Pems. Disk problems, not limited to cervical disk disease tend to show up a little more in Cardis than in Pems.

I would beg to differ that "This profile provides generally accepted breed information only."

Planet Dog's Doglopedia
http://www.petvr.com/index.php/pages...dsforkids.html

doesn't list either corgi breed in the top twenty.

Debbie

[Michael Romanos]

I am convinced that Pem Corgis are typically an excellent family dog and a lot of leading breeders of Pems sell their Corgis on that basis. Some people and canine specialists will rate Pems the best breed for families or among the best, others will not. I think the person I quoted has produced an excellent list of the top 20 breeds for families and i am very pleased that Pem Corgis are one of that group.
None of the Corgis I have had have been anti-children In varying degrees they have seeked out children to play with a to meet and greet. Typically Corgis just love all people members of their family and look out for their interests and well being.

[Peggy]

Originally Posted by Michael Romanos

I am convinced that Pem Corgis are typically an excellent family dog and a lot of leading breeders of Pems sell their Corgis on that basis. Some people and canine specialists will rate Pems the best breed for families or among the best, others will not. I think the person I quoted has produced an excellent list of the top 20 breeds for families and i am very pleased that Pem Corgis are one of that group.
None of the Corgis I have had have been anti-children In varying degrees they have seeked out children to play with a to meet and greet. Typically Corgis just love all people members of their family and look out for their interests and well being.

Michael, I raised my kids with my corgis too. However, over the years I've taken in a few corgis for biting or nipping children. Due to the last two being VERY hard to place, since I won't place them with families who have children or where children visit, Utah Corgi Rescue now has a policy of not taking in dogs with a bite history. Just in the past year we've had to turn down 4 corgis.

Yes, I do agree that most corgis are good family dogs. But not all. It depends so much on the breeding. Reading the rescue list we see way too many corgis who people want to turn over to rescue for biting or nipping children. It's getting to be one of the most frequent reasons. And remember we have a lot of casual breeders and commercial breeders in the US. So a lot of poorly bred dogs.

And no, IMO, it's not all the dogs fault. Many (dare I say most) times it's the fault of the parents for not training the dogs and/or the children. Or for not supervising properly.

Here in the US more and more reputable breeders are being extra cautious about placing dogs in homes with small children. Some very reputable leading US breeders will not place corgis with families who have small children.

Personally, I don't rule families who have kids out. But I do insist on meeting all family memebers and I observe how they act with and around my dogs. If I'm uncomfortable with the children, the family does not get one of my puppies.

Peggy

[glencorgi]

Originally Posted by Michael Romanos

I am convinced that Pem Corgis are typically an excellent family dog

Oh, they absolutely can be.

and a lot of leading breeders of Pems sell their Corgis on that basis.

Most puppies sold are sold as "family" dogs - however, that doesn't mean that the "leading breeders" aren't cautious about children of certain ages.

Some people and canine specialists will rate Pems the best breed for families or among the best, others will not.

Oh a lot of owners will give an unqualified thumbs up, and have the everybody needs a corgi attitude. This is the first time I've ever seen corgis rated so high on a recommendation list. Canine specialists are usually a little more discerning and acknowledge "one size does not fit all."

I think the person I quoted has produced an excellent list of the top 20 breeds for families and i am very pleased that Pem Corgis are one of that group.

But you didn't quote an individual person, although that information was requested. Credit for the list was attributed to the "PetPlace Staff" Nor did you identify the one organisation (at least) it was channelled through. Whether you realize it or not, those small details give credibility.

None of the Corgis I have had have been anti-children In varying degrees they have seeked out children to play with a to meet and greet. Typically Corgis just love all people members of their family and look out for their interests and well being.

AND as a breed that is how they are supposed to be, but in reality that is not always the case. 90% of the responsibility I would place on the adults in the family.

Debbie

[LaRogue]

And no, IMO, it's not all the dogs fault. Many (dare I say most) times it's the fault of the parents for not training the dogs and/or the children. Or for not supervising properly.

I whole heartedly agree with you! I've pretty much always had a dog and I don't remember ever being bitten, when I was small. I DO remember being told that if I got bitten it would be my own fault for not listening!

Here in the US more and more reputable breeders are being extra cautious about placing dogs in homes with small children.

I can't blame them and I understand their position, but I think it's so sad. I'm a firm believer that pets and kids go together; growing up with a dog, especially, teaches so many of life lessons and can be such a very positive experience.

If I'm not mistaken, I believe older versions of the AKC breed guide/encyclopedia used to state that corgis were not good with small children.

[Michael Romanos]

I, for one, am thrilled that someone in the USA who has made a significant list of the top 20 breeds of dogs that are best suited for families (based I suppose only on the breeds of dogs known in the USA), has rated Pem Corgis as second only to perhaps the world's most placid breed of dog, Golden Retrievers.

[Peggy]

Once again I'll state that my personal opinion is that anything that ranks our breed high and encourges people to buy them is not good for the breed. High rankings and promotion has never helped any breed. That encourages casual breeders to breed more to make money, and it encourages commercial breeders to breed more of them to put in pet stores.

Then people who don't do their research and don't know that corgis shed, or corgis can be barky, or corgis can be bossy, etc. buy them and then these dogs end up in shelters or in rescue.

Yes, I do think corgis are fantastic dogs. Yes, I think they are usually good family dogs. However, I do not belive they are the right breed for every family. (If that were true there would not be so many different breeds.)

Peggy

[sofapup]

Funny, I put off getting a corgi until I no longer had small children. I just didn't think my three boys stood a chance against the corgi's strong personality. I pictured them standing, corralled, as a very-much-in charge corgi ran rings around them. Looking back, maybe that wasn't such a bad idea. As it was, the youngest boy couldn't get past our new beagle without the dog pulling his socks off.

Julia

[Michael Romanos]

Corgis are typically simply wonderful with small children. My Taylor did play differently with my youngest (and still does with him now aged 11). and there were a number of occasions when Taylor pulled off Nathan's pyjama pants to the amusement of the rest of us.
Went to visit a 3 month old male Pem today and the Pem named Brynne made a huge fuss of Nathan.