Fears

[Dillydoodle]

LInda,
I think you are right, he must feel that the neighbor's lawnmower is out to get me!

Michael, What a sight it must have been to see a corgi running away from a childs kite! I wonder how dillon would react, he has never seen one..

I guess i wonder what instills the fears is some things and not others. When we discovered Dillon's fear of tape measures nothing bad happened to him, it never touched him, I put it on the ground for him to come and investigate it when i saw him cringing and running off, and he would not come close. I brought him over and had him sit next to it and you could see he was very antsy to leave..once i touched it again he freaked and ran..This is the same reaction to the water/soda bottles! The papertowel tube fear I will take the blame for -he was showing no interest so i did a cow moo through it, and well, that freaked him out ( though in my defense, our game outside is when he gets distracted, I moo and run away and he chases me.....I had good intentions to start that game with the tube..oh well.

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[sweetlychee]

This is a great thread. I see how other's corgis are afraid of certain noises or things - vacuums or what not. When Milo was a puppy, we walked him around the corner and saw another adult corgi. That corgi started barking at Milo and really wanted to chase him down but he was fenced. His owners laughed away but Milo was really scared.

To this day, Milo does not like other dogs and would hide behind us or run away. Another neighbor's big retrievers are fenced in but would always bark once they know Milo is around. This has scared him many times. I think Milo has more of a fear and dislike for other dogs unfortunately than appliances or anything. He doesn't like our mop though and would chase it. And if anyone parked their car near his pee spot, he would bark. He's bossy!

I wish I can do something for him to ease his fear on other dogs.

[corgimom]

Sweetly chee,

It would be great if you could get Milo around some other dogs that would not scare him. Milo is so young and and has a long life ahead of him to be afraid of dogs.

Do you know of anyone around you that has a more mild mannered dog that could possibly go on walks with you and Milo?

If not, do you have a doggy day care center around you? I say this, because I take Cody to one every week either for 1/2 day or a full day.

At this center, the dogs are required to have a 2 hour evaluation before they are allowed to participate. This is to see how they intereact with other dogs. They then, have a large dog area, and a smaller dog area(this is where Cody goes) Sometimes bigger dogs are allowed in if they are more laid back and mild mannered. He loves it. He gets to socialize with all different dogs each time he goes - there are a couple "regulars" there, but he is exposed to many other dogs. The dogs are closely monitored and he comes home tired and ready to nap. The last time I picked him up, he was wrestling with an Australian Shepherd pup about his size and the lady said they were having a good time all morning.

Each time I drop him off, he races for the door; he has no apprehension about going in - so I know he likes it. This may be an option for Milo if you have anything like that where he could get to be socialized with dogs that have been evaluated for good behavior.

Also, your picture you posted of you in the other thread was lovely. I see you mentioned your Fiance....Not sure if you ever plan on becoming a mom in the future, but it may be a good thing to also mingle him now with small children if you are able to do so. Do you have family with small children or friends with small kids?

[Fluffypants]

Doggy day care is a good idea - also training classes. These will get him used to being around other dogs. If you are willing to drive to White Plains once a week, here is a link to the training club I am a member of (below). They have great programs and teachers. And if you have any friends with friendly / non barky dogs, a playdate might be a good idea.

www.pcotc.org

[sweetlychee]

Originally Posted by corgimom

Sweetly chee,

It would be great if you could get Milo around some other dogs that would not scare him. Milo is so young and and has a long life ahead of him to be afraid of dogs.

Do you know of anyone around you that has a more mild mannered dog that could possibly go on walks with you and Milo?

If not, do you have a doggy day care center around you? I say this, because I take Cody to one every week either for 1/2 day or a full day.

At this center, the dogs are required to have a 2 hour evaluation before they are allowed to participate. This is to see how they intereact with other dogs. They then, have a large dog area, and a smaller dog area(this is where Cody goes) Sometimes bigger dogs are allowed in if they are more laid back and mild mannered. He loves it. He gets to socialize with all different dogs each time he goes - there are a couple "regulars" there, but he is exposed to many other dogs. The dogs are closely monitored and he comes home tired and ready to nap. The last time I picked him up, he was wrestling with an Australian Shepherd pup about his size and the lady said they were having a good time all morning.

Each time I drop him off, he races for the door; he has no apprehension about going in - so I know he likes it. This may be an option for Milo if you have anything like that where he could get to be socialized with dogs that have been evaluated for good behavior.

Also, your picture you posted of you in the other thread was lovely. I see you mentioned your Fiance....Not sure if you ever plan on becoming a mom in the future, but it may be a good thing to also mingle him now with small children if you are able to do so. Do you have family with small children or friends with small kids?

Linda, we actually tried to make a playdate for Milo before. We took him to our aunt's home who has two female dogs - one is a big lab and the other is a small pug. He got so scared of both of them and started barking at them. When the lab wanted to play with him and nudged him, he just laid down and pretended to be dead! When we purposely left the room, he went all ovre looking for us. He then had no choice to hide behind us that he just crouched down and laid down. The small pug wanted to play with him but he just laid down silently!

I think we are planning another playdate again soon after he takes his cone off. Boy, that was not a good first time playdate! But we will definitely try again. Our aunt's dogs are very calm and mellow. They love to play but are never mean. When the pug wanted to play with my fiance, Milo didn't like it and just looked up. I could sense his feelings but he didn't do anything about it.

He thinks he's human!

Oh, thank you for the compliment on the pictures. I definitely would love Milo to mingle with kids. Our neighbor has two small children. Milo has let them pet him and wanted to play with them before. They are too young to really play with him but it seems he's good with kids. He's just not good with dogs! He wants to lick children's faces and hands also!

[corgimom]

Maybe with the Lab and the Pug at the same time, Milo felt a bit overwhelmed by two of them at once. Maybe the Pug(more Milo's size) and Milo just together would be a good start. Rather than just putting Milo in a room with them to try and play, maybe start out with a walk together with just the pug where they can sniff eachother, but still be on a leash, do some walking and when you get back, maybe Milo will be more willing to interact with her. Not sure, just a suggestion

I am on the other end here, where Cody would love to greet any dog he sees - he thinks they are all his friends and he is not shy about it. Of course, not all dogs are friendly and some are way too dominant for him.

[Fluffypants]

Originally Posted by corgimom

I am on the other end here, where Cody would love to greet any dog he sees - he thinks they are all his friends and he is not shy about it. Of course, not all dogs are friendly and some are way too dominant for him.

Jackie is the same way!!!!

[sweetlychee]

I wish Milo was nicer. Sometimes I go over to another dog when it's being walked and I want to say hi or pet it. Milo just keeps barking. It's embarrassing as if he has a problem! And one dog owner has said to me he just wants to protect me. I highly doubt it. He rather I protect him!

And there are times where another older lady owner who said to her dog "No need to argue with him. Not worth your time." That hurt my feelings because my dog is very nice. He just has a barking and hate dog problem or something. Sigh. I wonder what other people think of Milo when he barks at their dogs? *Shaking my head*

[corgimom]

Sweetlychee

Jessica's suggestion of puppy training may be good for Milo. Has he been to a training class yet? That way, he can be kept on leash along with the other dogs and get to meet other dogs in a monitored setting, and the instructor can offer suggestions to you with regards to socializing him.

Sometimes dogs, bark because they want to get closer to the dog and greet them - Does Milo seem to be doing this, or, is he barking in a manner that does not sound friendly? and what is his "body Language" saying to you at that time?

Cody doesn't react the same way to all dogs he sees; some he sort of stares at(but his butt is wiggling), others he barks at(but his butt is wiggling) and in either case, he most often wants to go and say "hello"

[sweetlychee]

Originally Posted by corgimom

Sweetlychee

Jessica's suggestion of puppy training may be good for Milo. Has he been to a training class yet? That way, he can be kept on leash along with the other dogs and get to meet other dogs in a monitored setting, and the instructor can offer suggestions to you with regards to socializing him.

Sometimes dogs, bark because they want to get closer to the dog and greet them - Does Milo seem to be doing this, or, is he barking in a manner that does not sound friendly? and what is his "body Language" saying to you at that time?

Cody doesn't react the same way to all dogs he sees; some he sort of stares at(but his butt is wiggling), others he barks at(but his butt is wiggling) and in either case, he most often wants to go and say "hello"

We thought of puppy training classes where he can be on the leash and associate with other dogs but I don't think he's ready. Why? Because he seems so against other dogs and we don't want to go there and humiliate ourselves.

He sees dogs, his butt is wiggling. But, his tone of his bark is fierece as if they want to eat his food or something! I told him to calm down and he does a little. Once we had to pull him away or else we it seemed like he was going to get the other dog. I'm sure he means no harm but we were afraid. He never bit anyone or any dog. He also doesn't bark at people much. He just barks at dogs, cats, squirrels. He sometimes even stands behind me while barking at the other dogs.

A few times he was very good while we walked him and he didn't bark. Then, those small dogs started barking at him and he would bark back. Not sure if they wanted to play or say HI. I wish I could read their minds.

[tandemgal]

Chee,

keep in mind too that a lot of corgis are vocal dogs. Chloe is very vocal - she has little arooos and morning sounds but she also barks very deep and loud for such a little dog. Especially if someone comes to the door or if she hears another dog barking down the street or on the TV.

I think Linda and Fluffy P. are right - a puppy class will help Milo get used to other dogs and see they aren't a threat. There were several dogs that were frighten at Chloe and Emma's puppy classes - a lot of them were the big dogs. No one will think less of you - they are all there for the same reason too socialization of their puppy and a few manors. Besides who wouldn't love to see a little corgi in their class???? they are the cutiest puppies in the world!

also keep visiting the pug and lab - one on one would be best. Like Linda said a nice little walk without making them interact and then when they get back let them sniff and just hang out. It may take a few visits but the more he is around other mellow dogs the faster he will get used to other dogs.

keep us posted.

[Chip's Mom]

I also think a puppy class would be good and don't worry about being embarrassed - everybody there at one time or another will get embarrassed over something their pup does. Chip does just the opposite - he loves all other dogs and will flop down belly up in front of their face if I am not watching him close enough. I don't like him to do that. If he is in his yard, that is another matter and he will bark at the strays that come around or with Maybelle as she is very protective of the yard also.

[Dillydoodle]

Dillon wants to say hi to all dogs, but doesn't realize that some dogs might not want to be his friend, so he greets them by jumping up and putting his paws on their shoulders and I worry about the other dog's reactions really. There is one dog that drives Dillon NUTS - my neighbor has a Jack Russell Terrier that is very hyper and jumpy and barky and even when i ask dillon to sit , which he will do for me when other dogs and owners are out, he cant stay put for more than a second before he gets nervous watching this dog pulling on the end of his leash to get at him... It may be an individual personality thing , some dogs are going to be ok and others not so much.

I like the idea of the puppy kindergarten class- sometimes dogs that are fearful of other dogs can come out of their shell when they see the same dog week after week in class and have open play time.

Emilie

[corgimom]

Sweetlychee

Don't worry about humiliating yourself; when you get to class, you will see other dogs with all sorts of things they need to work on; honestly, this is true. Everyone has a reason for being at puppy class, and in most instances, many of you will have things in common. In Cody's first puppy class there was a large Newfoundland that was there because the owner wanted him to be more socialized.

Milo is at a perfect age to go - is he 6 or 7 months? and you will be in control of the leash. Not all dogs will get along. You could call a training place and talk with an instructor and express your concerns and see what they think or suggest.( even attend a class without Milo to see how it is run) before you sign him up.

Because the longer you wait, he may never be ready and his fearfulness of other dogs may just get worse, so possibly lessoning his fear when he is younger rather than trying to do it when he gets older would probably be easier.

Just my suggestions.

[milles2]

Lulu does the funniest things when she sees new things. She barks at them as if to say "STRANGER! Danger! She crouches down, barks at things, circles them, then eventually moves on. I forgot but when we walk by the playground they have horses, dolphond on springs that kids would play on. She does not like them! She narks at them, circles them, barks some more, them moves on. Whatever!